Moving Harrington in the offseason

[darobster17]

I'd deal Harrington to Chicago to get Drew Gooden and Cedric Simmons. Gooden is an expiring contract that has local ties to the Bay Area and Simmons is insurance if Gooden decides to leave.

I really don't see a better deal for Harrington. Getting Gooden on an expiring contract could mean better #'s for Gooden.

The other possible deal that I would like is dealing Harrington to Seattle and getting Chris Wilcox and Adrian Griffin.

[Chris Cohan]

I'm on record as supporting any trade of Al Harrington that gets expiring contracts and whatever else can be had back. I'd like to see if Ty Thomas can be acquired. But Thomas is green and rowdy and can't shoot. Nelson would not be cool with that.

Simmons and Lasme have a lot in common. Both are worthy of the right team's patience and commitment to improving them as NBA players.

That rules us out.

[FNQ]

That's not a terrible idea... might be hard to sell CHI on it.

Simply put, Al needs to be on a slow team with an inside presence at C... Houston would be an immaculate fit for him, but they don't have anything we really need.

Other good ideas include Philadelphia, Cleveland, Charlotte, San Antonio, Minnesota...

CLE is my favorite option... Eric Snow + Joe Smith for Harrington + Pietrus works for me.

We could even trade him to Minny for Toine... that's how bad I want the EC for Harrington. He may actually even fit next to Big Al.

Either way, we've proven once again this season that Al's knees couldn't hold up an entire season of Nellieball, and he crapped out exactly where I told people he would - the stretch run of this season. 40-50 games of Nellieball and Al's spent.

+1 selfprop

Still like the guy though.. his attitude is one I wish we could keep, but the price is ridiculous...

[Chris Cohan]

Al is a great Eastern Conference player if he stays in the shape he's in now. He can put up 17-18 a night there if he puts a little time into his layups.

[dom80e]

I still think Al would be a great sixth man as a 3\4.

Trading him for only a useless player with an expiring would be a step backwards IMO. He only has two years left on his contract.

[Hopper15]

Harrington didn't hire a new agent for nothing. He will opt out next year, so he is in essence an expiring contract. I don't see any talent upgrade with Wilcox or Gooden, so why do it?

[Chris Cohan]

Not certain. Neither did Barnes.

[dom80e]

Harrington didn't hire a new agent for nothing. He will opt out next year, so he is in essence an expiring contract. I don't see any talent upgrade with Wilcox or Gooden, so why do it?

I don't think he he has a player option, but if he does that works for me.

[Hopper15]

http://www.realgm.com/src_contractoptions/2009/

[dom80e]

http://www.realgm.com/src_contractoptions/2009/

Thanks. I had been going by hoopshype.

[FNQ]

Al has to take that money... he can't turn down 10 mil for one season.

Long term security be damned.... no agent and no player turns down 10 mil at Harrington's current status.

He'll be lucky to make it to 2009 in this system...

[Chris Cohan]

Harrington needs to go.

And, to borrow from the noise about Baron this year, he won't get paid more in 09-10 than he can make under his current contract.

The agent is here to talk about extensions, sorry Hopper.
And they're not coming from the Warriors' camp.

[Hopper15]

He's not happy about his role here. He'll take a pay cut for longer term security. Fegan was hired to put feelers out and put together a sign and trade.

[Chris Cohan]

Fegan is the same guy Barnes hired last year to try to get the big deal with. Fegan is here to talk extension with teams asking about Al in trade NOW. And the Warriors are ready to go.

So why are you mentioning sign and trade while also saying moving Al for expirings is not important because he's an expiring himself?

[Hopper15]

Sign and trade after he opts out.

[turk3d]

He'll go elsewhere (I don't think Al is one of the players who Nellie has endeared himself to). I think it depends on if he gets any offers close to what he's scheduled to make next year and whether or not they are willing to extend him. If someone offers him maybe even a little less but is willing to give multiple years, I think he's gone. If that's the case, then maybe let him walk. I don't S & T is likely to work for him since I think we would rather have the money and use it to maybe grab someone for the MLE. With Wright being more mature and if we keep our draft pick, I think we can get someone who can replace Al. And of course if not, there's always the D league. "Nice Story #3." lol.

He makes too much to be a bench player for us and I think he's going to want to go somewhere else, especially if we don't make the playoffs or do and have bad run. There'll be a shakeup and he knows that's he's likely the first one out the door.

[mistatwo mayn]

I love Al, but he needs to step it up. I'm afraid losing him would have some affect on team chemistry. He's worth 6 mil not 9 mil. He plays hard but damm... I wish he dunked putbacks.

[Chris Cohan]

Sign and trade after he opts out.

Warriors don't sound like they want to wait a year, sorry.

[Hopper15]

What have they said?

[Chris Cohan]

Fegan represents Richardson, Murphy, Croshere, and Jackson, besides Al Harrington. The Warriors rarely enjoy working with him these days and especially do not respond well when he pushes for big money and many years. He tried to with Barnes but they had overestimated that market. Fegan actually hurts Harrington if he again misreads the market.

His greatest success came years ago and now he and his associates also have to manage Marion's offseason negotiations. If he's too difficult to work with because he hasn't shaken his Scott Boras complex and still does not want to give in the the revised cap structures and league response to that handcuff, he'll make this whole thing impossible.

Harrington is obviously looking for the most he can get to finish his career on and the Warriors are hands down not the team that will give it to him. He was acquired as much because he represented significant savings over Murphy or Dunleavy as he brought useful ability and energy. He has never been in the team's longterm plans and it is generally agreed, as you yourself have already mentioned but do not seem to connect to what you're trying to say about not trading Al this offseason, that he is not happy with his place under Don Nelson. Wright is already the heir apparent next year.

All sides want to get this done this offseason since Al has built strong value for himself under Nelson that may not exist this time next year after a year of Wright excelling in regular minutes and pushing him further out of the spotlight. Al is used to being a spotlight starter and wants to be that again. He does not want to play center all the time but has added great value to his resume by doing so successfully under Carlisle and now Nelson. The team that talks to him like he'll have ample oportunity to be a feature wing scorer will get him fastest but anyone who sees him to make a difference-- and that probably means the East for him again-- will have a good shot if they talk extension and have a good expiring contract plus even one promising young player or decent draft pick.

There are several Midwestern teams that figure to be in on Al this offseason.