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Post#21 » by WadeKnicks2010 » Sun Apr 6, 2008 6:08 pm

New York

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Post#22 » by mudyez » Sun Apr 6, 2008 6:53 pm

TheOUTLAW wrote:This thread is silly. There is no rational criteria being used. You could name any city and then just justify it with whatever you feel is important.


Thats why I was pointing to "market", "arenas" and "fans" and the first two are pretty rational (the quoted stats and age/capacity of arenas) and the last one lets some room for discussion, so the thread isnt just stats-based!
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Post#23 » by Village Idiot » Sun Apr 6, 2008 7:15 pm

mudyez wrote:found something interesting:

The 15 largest non-NBA cities - Listed by television market:

1. Tampa-St. Petersburg, Florida (1,671,040)
2. St. Louis, Missouri (1,216,700)
3. Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania (1,186,010)
4. Baltimore, Maryland (1,087,730)
5. San Diego, California (1,025,730)
6. Hartford, Connecticut (1,017,530)
7. Raleigh-Durham, North Carolina (966,720)
8. Nashville, Tennessee (916,170)
9. Kansas City, Missouri (894,580)
10. Cincinnati, Ohio (883,230)
11. Columbus, Ohio (867,490)
12. Grand Rapids, Michigan (732,600)
13. Port St. Lucie-West Palm Beach, Florida (729,010)
14. Birmingham, Alabama (717,300)
15. Virginia Beach-Norfolk, Virginia (707,750)


The 15 largest non-NBA cities - Listed by MSA population (2004):
1. Riverside, California (3,793,081)(in Los Angeles-Anaheim TV market)
2. San Diego, California (2,931,714)
3. St. Louis, Missouri (2,764,054)
4. Baltimore, Maryland (2,639,613)
5. Tampa-St. Petersburg, Florida (2,587,967)
6. Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania (2,401,575)
7. Cincinnati, Ohio (2,058,221)
8. Kansas City, Missouri (1,925,319)
9. San Jose, California (1,741,431)(in San Francisco-Oakland TV market)
10. Columbus, Ohio (1,693,906)
11. Las Vegas, Nevada (1,650,671)
12. Virginia Beach-Norfolk, Virginia (1,644,250)
13. Providence, Rhode Island (1,628,808)
14. Austin, Texas (1,412,271)
15. Nashville, Tennessee (1,395,879)


link: http://www.nbahoopsonline.com/generalin ... rkets.html
No OKC on either list. Way to go Stern. Moving the Sonics there is great for the league. :banghead:

I can't fathom people saying New York is a great basketball town. The fan base are reactionary and impatient. They'll turn their backs and boo their own team and management and I'm not talking just about the deserved bashing of Isiah and co. The media is brutal and the arena is one of the least modern in the league. Besides shear numbers and the city what does New York have going for it?

My opinion:

1. Boston- great fan base. Probably the most knowledgeable in the league. Still a solid basketball town.

2. Portland- the city is rapid for the Blazers. Only during the latter JailBlazers era did the fans abandon the team. Great arena and practice facility.

3. Indiana- The consummate basketball city. In a bad era PR wise.

4. LA- The Lakers are the draw here. Basketball isn't a huge sport in LA but those who care about it are great fans. Wonderful place to live large if you're young and can afford it. The Clippers are a joke of a franchise and the only thing keeping LA from #2.

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Post#24 » by Cevap » Mon Apr 7, 2008 12:49 am

Basketball towns depend on the team's success. last year boston couldn't give away tickets for that train wreck and this year it's sold out. there's no city that would support a losing team
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Post#25 » by randomhero423 » Mon Apr 7, 2008 1:44 am

new york got the greatest arena in the world -- madison square garden.

NYC is too big and too much things to do to waste our time on a dreadful team (the ticket sales are still good by the way..)

pat ewing days it was an amazing spectacle.
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Post#26 » by TheMadMongoose » Mon Apr 7, 2008 5:32 am

Seems to me like Utah is always there for their jazz.
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Post#27 » by mudyez » Mon Apr 7, 2008 6:18 am

Cevap wrote:Basketball towns depend on the team's success. last year boston couldn't give away tickets for that train wreck and this year it's sold out. there's no city that would support a losing team


yeah, but then you have a team like the hornets, which are the best of the beastly west and cant fill the seats or create something like a homecourtadvantage
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Post#28 » by farzi » Mon Apr 7, 2008 8:49 am

mudyez wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



yeah, but then you have a team like the hornets, which are the best of the beastly west and cant fill the seats or create something like a homecourtadvantage


The city of New Orleans gets somewhat of a pass for not filling all of the seats imo
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Post#29 » by Duiz » Mon Apr 7, 2008 10:03 am

Utah has the toughest home crowd... perhaps not the coolest place to live, but has proved to be the best year after year.
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Post#30 » by mudyez » Mon Apr 7, 2008 5:38 pm

farzi wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



The city of New Orleans gets somewhat of a pass for not filling all of the seats imo


yeah...ok, but is it just coz of katrina?
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Post#31 » by CBS7 » Mon Apr 7, 2008 6:15 pm

The Bulls continue to sell out despite their sucking.
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Post#32 » by da_next_kid » Tue Apr 8, 2008 6:37 am

LA
Toronto
New York
Chicago
Boston

Raptors are a new franchise but the city is huge and the franchise has a pretty big following. Had one of the worst teams in recent history and still managed to sell a good amount of tickets, very impressive for such a new franchise. The media market is huge too, annoyingly huge and the media is just terrible but the media is everywhere.

The rest are self explanatory and they are not in order and if they were, Toronto would be last.
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Post#33 » by Super Bad » Tue Apr 8, 2008 6:51 am

Teams record and the marketable of their players is the most important thing for cities outside of New York, Boston, and L.A. When the Cavs were with out the Chosen one no one was at the Arena now it sells out. In general I think that it's hard for a small market team to be successful when they have a football team in town. Football is king in the United States.
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Post#34 » by Jemini80 » Tue Apr 8, 2008 7:00 am

farzi wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



The city of New Orleans gets somewhat of a pass for not filling all of the seats imo


not really, the Jazz failed there too. I never understood why the Hornets moved there over the other more worthy cities to begin with. I don't get why cities with failed NBA franchises get second chances before a city that has never had one (Las Vegas) gets a chance.
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Post#35 » by RobertGlory » Fri Apr 11, 2008 8:50 am

mudyez wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



yeah, but then you have a team like the hornets, which are the best of the beastly west and cant fill the seats or create something like a homecourtadvantage


have you seen us play since the all-star break??????
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