2008 General Draft Discussion: Who to take with our picks?

[Pugsley_2491]

I'm all for best player available, but where is Frank going to play a post player? Behind Krstic, Boone, Sean Williams, Swift, Diop? Sure, we could lose Diop in FA, or make a trade, but I def. think we need a 2/3 to back Vnce and RJ...right now its only Hassell, Boki and Ager, and Boki may (or should) be gone.

Look at it this way, everyone other than Krstic relies on basically put-backs or alley-oops. Griffin could really be a rock for the future to finally have what we've always lacked, inside scoring. While Boone is a nice player, he's nothing more than a bench player (as of right now, who knows maybe he'll develope some sort of game). Swift is expendable since we just have a younger version of him in Sean. As for Diop I'd prefer not to re-sign him as he's going to be really overpaid for a guy that plays 12.5 minutes.

Jordan is tempting to me just because of that potential. However, if we are in position to get Mayo then I'm all for it.

Btw I was thinking of this the other day. Say we draft Mayo with the lotto pick, how much in the draft could we move up with a package of the Dallas pick and Boone. If a guy like Thabeet doesn't fall to us with that pick then I'd deff trade Boone plus the Dallas pick since He could be an upgrade over Boone and can also play a role of Diop (except a better offensive player). Other than that I want Rush with the Dallas pick and I'd LOOOOOVEEE to see us land either CDR or Roby in the second round. Mbah a Moute wouldn't be bad either.

Oh yeah should I change this title to our Draft in general? since we normally end up talking about the other picks and not just the lotto pick.

[vincecarter4pres]

Remember Derrick Coleman our 1990 1st overall pick who had the tools be a great but only put in enough effort to guarantee his next paycheck ? I mean some experts already called him the next DC , if he comes to us even more people will compare them ..

I'd imagine if we somehow get the first pick Beasley's gonna pan out like DC ...

Thats funny. When I was reading his weaknesses that was what immediately came to mind.

[vincecarter4pres]

So I was thinking.......

With the team the way it is, with VC and RJ being good playmakers and passers, if by some crazy chance we wound up with the 2nd pick how would you huys like something like this:

Draft Rose, then.....

Trade a resigned Krstic, Devin and Swift if needed for salary for either Brand or JO.

Even if we got Mayo, Augustin or Bayless with the 5-10 pick that would be a nice trade.

I am by no means giving up on or underrating Devin or Curly, but ala Boston we would have an Allstar 4/5, 3 and 2, along with a speedy solid rookie point(I know Rondo is no longer a rookie). You still have Boone at the 4/5 and SWill and Diop(if we resign him) off the bench. Maybe Nachbar and definetley Marcus off the bench. Try to sign a guy like Jarvis Hayes.

This is all skeptical, because LAC or Indianna would have to trade to us, we would have to be willing to take on salary and be comfortable with those 2 guys injury concerns.

But man that would be sick.

Anyway, if we more realistically wind up with a later pick how do you huys feel about Kevin Love?

[Serpo]

I prefer to trade our picks for a guy like Mayo or Gordon to come off the bench.

Edit: and one thing we are def. NOT taking Jordan , i'm going to quote a report on how the Nets have been drafting in the Thorn era mainly the reasoning .

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[Adam1221]

I gave it a thought and came to the conclusion that Gallinari is our ultimate draft pick for us.
Of course Im excluding Beasley but comon there's no chance were getting him.

[vincecarter4pres]

Kevin Love?

Thoughts?

[jeff1624]

I'd love to trade the dallas pick + cash considerations for the rights of Rudy Fernandez.

Sure it's a longshot but Portland does have roster issues in a sense that they have too many picks, too many players for next season. We trade them the pick, they draft a player who could stay overseas for a couple of years and the cash could be used as incentive to help buy out a player who doesn't figure into there long term plans like Frye.

That way both teams come out winning, we get our sg/sf to backup RJ and VC and portland reduces there roster by a bit.

[Pugsley_2491]

Ok so I saw this on Netsdaily
http://blog.nj.com/netsblast/2008/04/ma ... .html#more

It's DD and he basically thinks RJ will be moved. So that made me think that Gallinari will basically be our lotto pick since he could just slide right in and fill RJ's spot. Thoughts?

Edit: or we could move up for Mayo and just move Carter to the 3

[Serpo]

Well if RJ is moved ( and thats if one of the two is moved most likely the best choice since he has FAR less influence on the Nets as a Team , is younger and coming of a healthy and statiscally great season ) it'd be interesting to see for what .

A young player ? An established big with flaws ( J.O for example ) ? Expiring contracts ? Picks ?

I bet it's not going to be pick and expirings since the Nets need something right away in return but what is it ?

I personally would take a chance on a gamble on J.O for RJ packed with Swift and something minor . Take Gallinari with the pick and aquire something to come of the bench .

J.O expires in two years ( perfect timing ) and still makes us in the meantime a somewhat competetive team with hopefully the emerge of or young players.

[kamaze]

Kevin Love struggled in that Memphis game he didn't get the ball enough but I wouldn't draft him.

[NetsForce]

If the Nets want JO I think they can get him without parting with Harris, Carter, or RJ...

I wonder if Nets management would be willing to commit to that much in salaries though...

[halfHAVOC]

If the Nets want JO I think they can get him without parting with Harris, Carter, or RJ...

I wonder if Nets management would be willing to commit to that much in salaries though...

do you realize if the nets did that they would become the biggest powerhouse in the east if the celtics took a step off.

like basically we would get to the EFC if everyone stayed healthy.

i REALLY hope that happens!!!

[NetsForce]

Possibly, but think about it:

Nets trade:
- Marcus Williams (Young Prospect)
- Stromile Swift (Expiring)
- Hassell (Soon-to-be Expiring)
- Diop (sign-and-traded)
- Josh Boone (if Pacers can't be convinced of the trade)
- 1st round pick (either Nets lottery protected OR unprotected Mavericks pick)
- 2nd round pick (if needed)

I think that's a pretty fair trade for the Pacers given O'neal's gigantic contract and injury concerns. The longest contract they would take on would be Diop's which would probably only be for 2-3 years, 4 years max, and he's a serviceable center who fits a need for them...

As for the Nets, well they get to keep their big 3 AND Nenad Krstic. Maybe I'm being too idealistic but I would seriously consider jumping on a trade like this...

As an alternate trade which will probably appeal more to the Pacers, the Nets could probably keep Boone and send the player they draft with the Mavericks pick this year (on behalf of the Pacers) to Indiana instead. Throw in a second rounder or something and the value is fair enough.

[MrDollarBills]

O'Neal is what we need, a 4 guy that can score about 18ppg with a mix of back to the basket moves and mid range jumpers, but how much can we really afford to bring in a guy that won't play more than 50 games per season?

[Adam1221]

Possibly, but think about it:

Nets trade:
- Marcus Williams (Young Prospect)
- Stromile Swift (Expiring)
- Hassell (Soon-to-be Expiring)
- Diop (sign-and-traded)
- Josh Boone (if Pacers can't be convinced of the trade)
- 1st round pick (either Nets lottery protected OR unprotected Mavericks pick)
- 2nd round pick (if needed)

I think that's a pretty fair trade for the Pacers given O'neal's gigantic contract and injury concerns. The longest contract they would take on would be Diop's which would probably only be for 2-3 years, 4 years max, and he's a serviceable center who fits a need for them...

As for the Nets, well they get to keep their big 3 AND Nenad Krstic. Maybe I'm being too idealistic but I would seriously consider jumping on a trade like this...

As an alternate trade which will probably appeal more to the Pacers, the Nets could probably keep Boone and send the player they draft with the Mavericks pick this year (on behalf of the Pacers) to Indiana instead. Throw in a second rounder or something and the value is fair enough.

Hmmm yeah I confirm that this is a brilliant all sides win trade.
The Pacers openly admitted to the media that they will start a rebuilding process next season and their first goal is probably to dump Oneil's massive contract.
This trade will put the Nets right back to the top of the eastern conference and ready to make a bang when they move to Brooklyn.
The one thing I might change is try to sign and trade Boki and sign and keep Diop to have a good 4 man big man rotation.
Lets say we manage to draft Gallinari
This lineup is just SCARY!


Harris/Vince/FA(?)
Vince/Gallinari/FA(?)/.....................Ager
RJ/Gallinari/FA(?)/Vince
Kristic/Sean Williams
J.Oneil/Diop

[vincecarter4pres]

I would rather keep Boki.
Diop can block a lot of shots and just give fouls a dominant big man, especially in the playoffs, but he is a marginal rebounder, and beyond a liability on the offensive end.
This guy is a turnover or blown layup/dunk waiting to happen, and for some reason he has decided to start taking short and medium range jumpers and hook shots this season.
Why?

[vincecarter4pres]

By the way, I would rather keep Boone and send either S.Will or Krstic.

[MrDollarBills]

I'd rather dump Dooki and keep Diop. We need the size off the bench...let some other team pay Crapbar to stink up the gym.

[G_MoNeY]

I'd rather get rid of Nachbar and draft a shooter that is more consistent.

[MrDollarBills]

That too