Is lobbying for awards unethical?

the southern dandy · Post #41 » by **the southern dandy** » Wed Apr 9, 2008 2:01 am

HarlemHeat37 wrote:I don't see a problem with it..as long as nobody says anything bad about their opponents in their respective award races, then you should have the right to promote yourself and to campaign for an award..

+1

This was exactly what I was going to say.

xstockholmsyndromex · Post #42 » by **xstockholmsyndromex** » Wed Apr 9, 2008 4:16 am

I was thinking about starting a topic about this the other day, after I heard about the Hornets sending out "Byron Scott for COY Propaganda" to the voters. To me its bush league. If you need to be hyped up by your organizations marketing department, then you probably dont deserve the award.

I think Jerry Sloan should have been COY multiple times over, but I would lose a lot of respect for the Jazz Org. if they started a "VOTE SLOAN COTY" campagin.

Milkdud · Post #43 » by **Milkdud** » Wed Apr 9, 2008 5:17 am

so far ive seen a trend, grump jazz fans :roll:

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Buckeye-NBAFan · Post #44 » by **Buckeye-NBAFan** » Wed Apr 9, 2008 5:26 am

Duiz wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
How about if Curry promoted himself and got awarded All-Star started in front of Dwight Howard?

How does that work? That's like saying it's unethical to run for President, because you're campaigning for yourself at the expense of another. It might require you to be unethical to be that influential in politics, but that's another story.

Duiz · Post #45 » by **Duiz** » Wed Apr 9, 2008 9:41 am

Buckeye-NBAFan wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

How does that work? That's like saying it's unethical to run for President, because you're campaigning for yourself at the expense of another. It might require you to be unethical to be that influential in politics, but that's another story.

It is kinda like bribing. Is bribing ethical?

There is lobbying laws and campaign financing laws among other things regulating politics.

There should be rules too, is kinda like saying, I can do steroids, and as long as I don't go Tonya Harding on others, it is fine that I do steroids.

AKBlazerFan · Post #46 » by **AKBlazerFan** » Wed Apr 9, 2008 9:56 am

Bribing? a $300 ipod to a coach who makes millions?? It was for highlighting Roy, not offering a bribe.

Most of these cases arent even things of monetary value, such as Websites/Propaganda.

And i agree Milkdud, there a lot good number of bitter Jazz fans...

Buckeye-NBAFan · Post #47 » by **Buckeye-NBAFan** » Wed Apr 9, 2008 2:52 pm

Duiz wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

It is kinda like bribing. Is bribing ethical?

There is lobbying laws and campaign financing laws among other things regulating politics.

There should be rules too, is kinda like saying, I can do steroids, and as long as I don't go Tonya Harding on others, it is fine that I do steroids.

So a $5000 campaign contribution to a $100 million campaign is a bribe then too?

The_Believer · Post #48 » by **The_Believer** » Wed Apr 9, 2008 6:15 pm

The people who accept the bribes are even more unethical. For instance, Baron Davis was clearly outplaying Roy, yet the coaches hate Baron and were tricked by his marketing, so they voted Roy in and axed Baron. Plus, when Roy was the one who was on his way to becoming a global megastar from the hype and not better players, that was just awful to see.
Same thing is happening to Oden btw. Being overmarketed, being a super star but not even a star (at least at this point).

AKBlazerFan · Post #49 » by **AKBlazerFan** » Wed Apr 9, 2008 9:19 pm

Better Call the Waaaaammbulance.

Sounds like GSW marketing team should have sent out somethign too. You Jazz/Warriors fans are so bitter. When they sent out the iRoy, then didnt also send out crappy highlights of Davis, they didn't take anything from Davis. I do not see why you guys think this stuff is so bad. I am proud my organization supports its players. Now if Roy bought the iPods and sent them out, that would be a much different story....

Buckeye-NBAFan · Post #50 » by **Buckeye-NBAFan** » Wed Apr 9, 2008 9:51 pm

The_Believer wrote:The people who accept the bribes are even more unethical. For instance, Baron Davis was clearly outplaying Roy, yet the coaches hate Baron and were tricked by his marketing, so they voted Roy in and axed Baron.

I agree. Don Nelson and his peers are stupid and only give all star bids to players who give them iPod videos. :crazy:

bballguru · Post #51 » by **bballguru** » Wed Apr 9, 2008 10:06 pm

Don't hate on Brandon for the Iroy. The Blazers marketing staff put the whole thing together without even telling him. And besides if they say they have a whole big media/pr campaign in place to help promote you why would you say no?

Spicy P · Post #52 » by **Spicy P** » Wed Apr 9, 2008 10:41 pm

The iRoy is definitely unethical. It's called bribery.

Post #53 » by **bleu** » Wed Apr 9, 2008 10:45 pm

Milkdud wrote:so far ive seen a trend, grump jazz fans .

Funny...only 3 Jazz fans have even posted in this thread. :roll:

jeffhardyfan52 · Post #54 » by **jeffhardyfan52** » Wed Apr 9, 2008 11:14 pm

Got to love the bitterness of everyone. B-roy desrved to be at the all star game and he played that game like the all star he is all the bitter fans should make a deal out of West makeing to the all star team more then roy

Post #55 » by **NO-KG-AI** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 12:08 am

jeffhardyfan52 wrote:Got to love the bitterness of everyone. B-roy desrved to be at the all star game and he played that game like the all star he is all the bitter fans should make a deal out of West makeing to the all star team more then roy

Not really, because West is better than Camby, and has played better this year, and Roy isn't better than Davis, and he hasn't played better.

Post #56 » by **og15** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 12:32 am

I don't know, I have some doubt in my mind that the coaches voted for Roy because of the iRoy stuff. Every year we have players who are snubbed from the All-Star team because there are many deserving guys, the coaches aren't little children where they're like oooohhh, iRoy with highlights, better vote for him.