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Deandre Jordan declearing smart or stupid ?

It's stupid he should stay and polish his game more
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Smart move he's not that good declare while you're still a lottery pick
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Post#21 » by Nolan » Thu Apr 10, 2008 3:48 pm

Its smart and stupid. Smart from a finacial persepective but stupid from a future career persepective. Jordan seriously underachieved this year at A&M, he has the physical gifts but shows absolutely no passion or desire so I really I don't know if staying in school was a good idea for him anyway. Maybe he'll be more motivated at the NBA level, but I doubt it.
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Post#22 » by MalReyn » Thu Apr 10, 2008 4:31 pm

Paydro70 wrote:I disagree, with the caveat that I don't know how he'll be treated next year at TAMU. If they play him for 30+ minutes a game, he could most certainly confirm his potential enough that he'll be drafted lock top-5 instead of late lottery as he probably is now. Even if you assume no improvement, just playing at the same level for 30 minutes instead of 20, his stats would be: 12 ppg, 9rpg, 2bpg, and probably still somewhere around .600 shooting (maybe he even gets his FT shooting to .500). I don't think that's bad at all, on a team that runs a very slow offense, plus he'd still only be 20 and a physical freak. So I doubt he slips out of the lottery unless he actually declines markedly, or they still don't give him minutes.

And what if he improves? He's starting from very little, so it's not crazy to imagine he'd improve his skills on both sides of the court, at which point he looks like a very solid top-5 pick.


True, but if he goes to a team that develops him well and he improves in the NBA rather than the NCAA, he'll get his first big extension 1 year earlier.

Regardless, I think the potential drop with him NOT improving is high enough to warrant him leaving. Better safe than sorry.
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Post#23 » by dunkonu21 » Thu Apr 10, 2008 4:55 pm

Smart, this way the T-Wolves can shock the world by taking him in the top 5.
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Post#24 » by Serpo » Thu Apr 10, 2008 5:40 pm

Poor Wolves ....
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Post#25 » by catalyst » Thu Apr 10, 2008 6:31 pm

I think this is sad. The kid has potential, but cannot even start in college. He will be a lotto pick. He should hire the coach himself, or his agent should when he hires one. Pays the coach as a consultant. Remember the old Big Man Camp? A guy like that. I think many kids hsould stay in school. Best time of my life. Some were not meant to be there. I just fear Chris Washburn syndrome, or Leon Smith. Unproven going pro, poorly advised, lost everything by 25. There are too many sad stories. I hope he is not one.
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Post#26 » by princeofpalace » Thu Apr 10, 2008 7:30 pm

Declaring for the draft is smart, hiring an agent would be very very stupid. I read a Chad Ford blurb about Deandre recently that said that Jordan was having trouble getting NBA scouts interested in him because of his underwhelming year.

I really dont think he is a lock for the lottery, especially when youve got guys like Mareese Speights and JaVele McGee declaring (they are just as gifted athletically, have upside but have atleast proven they can get something done on teh college level.

I think Deandre has to excel in workouts and predraft camps to really make himself a lottery lock
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Post#27 » by moocow007 » Thu Apr 10, 2008 7:37 pm

Hey if you feel that you'll be a lottery pick and set to make millions but don't have the drive to be a great player then of course it's smart to take the money and run.

And please, without reading all the other posts in this thread but guessing that it's come up as a topic of discussion...DeAndre Jordan is NOT the next Dwight Howard. To anyone that thinks that...please...JUST STOP...JUST STOP.

He's A LOT closer to being the next Channing Frye (without the jumpshot) than he has of being the next Dwight Howard. Not in the same class athleticially and Dwight's got Jordan beat in the balls and determination department by about the distance between the Earth and the Sun.
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Post#28 » by nitetrain8603 » Thu Apr 10, 2008 9:53 pm

Smart, it's not like Texas A&M even had the Lopez twins starting for them and he couldn't even start over them.
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Post#29 » by Blame Rasho » Thu Apr 10, 2008 9:54 pm

moocow007 wrote:Hey if you feel that you'll be a lottery pick and set to make millions but don't have the drive to be a great player then of course it's smart to take the money and run.

And please, without reading all the other posts in this thread but guessing that it's come up as a topic of discussion...DeAndre Jordan is NOT the next Dwight Howard. To anyone that thinks that...please...JUST STOP...JUST STOP.

He's A LOT closer to being the next Channing Frye (without the jumpshot) than he has of being the next Dwight Howard. Not in the same class athleticially and Dwight's got Jordan beat in the balls and determination department by about the distance between the Earth and the Sun.


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Howard was a beast at the same age. He posted a double double out of highschool in the NBA. Jordan isn't even in the class as Howard. He is closer to being a Kwame Brown player than Howard.
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Post#30 » by dunkonu21 » Thu Apr 10, 2008 10:18 pm

"He is closer to being a Kwame Brown player than Howard. "-Blame Rasho


I'd say he is in the middle as far as what he'll prolly become.
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Post#31 » by moocow007 » Thu Apr 10, 2008 10:23 pm

dunkonu21 wrote:"He is closer to being a Kwame Brown player than Howard. "-Blame Rasho


I'd say he is in the middle as far as what he'll prolly become.


I'm picturing something along the lines of an less athletic Michael Olowakandi myself.
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Post#32 » by Serpo » Thu Apr 10, 2008 10:28 pm

Well thats nothing a team should waste it's lottery pick on .
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Post#33 » by dunkonu21 » Fri Apr 11, 2008 1:46 am

moocow007 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



I'm picturing something along the lines of an less athletic Michael Olowakandi myself.



Clearly you are joking.
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Post#34 » by Cruel_Ruin » Fri Apr 11, 2008 4:22 am

He'll be a poor man's Tyson Chandler, IMO
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Post#35 » by Paydro70 » Fri Apr 11, 2008 4:14 pm

Or exactly like Tyson Chandler, who took about 4 years to really get it and be a useful running-boarding-blocking center. A poor man Tyson's Chandler is I suppose Stromile Swift.
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Post#36 » by Malinhion » Fri Apr 11, 2008 5:14 pm

Stro Swift is nothing like Tyson Chandler.
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Post#37 » by DaGoodz » Fri Apr 11, 2008 6:58 pm

I think he's smart,
After what happened with Chris Taft.
I think Deandre should ride his hype while he can, before he's exposed if he stays another year
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Post#38 » by moocow007 » Fri Apr 11, 2008 9:02 pm

dunkonu21 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-




Clearly you are joking.


Clearly you've not seen Michael Olowokandi when he was at Pacific. His athleticism and size was what got him drafted no.1 overall despite very real questions about his lack of intensity and virgin basketball skills. Same reason Kwame Brown was drafted no.1 overall (cause he was a 6'11" guy with great athleticism). And Jordan doesn't have either Olowokandi nor Brown's athleticism...he just doesn't. Ergo, an less athletic version of Michael Olowokandi. And that's not necessarily a knock since Kandiman actually did average a pretty solid 9.5 ppg and 7.7 rpg and 1.6 bpg for his shortish NBA career.
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Post#39 » by Don Draper » Sat Apr 12, 2008 12:03 am

Lets get real. Jordan is a bum. The truth is he did play but his coaches quickly realized he wasn't that good. I would not take this guy in the lottery. NBA GMs are so enamored with athleticism that they forget about basketball IQ and track record. Truth is this guy never had a good game when it counted and doesn't know how to hold a basketball. Stay away.
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Post#40 » by Serpo » Sat Apr 12, 2008 12:22 am

Well you can't teach hight and athleticism so GM will always take risks on potential busts like Jordan and other raw bigs. Some guys will blossom , most not but the GM mostly know it before.

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