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Post#301 » by queridiculo » Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:03 pm

Alright, can we put this myth to rest that Blatche is somehow a significantly better defender than Jamison?

His high foul rate is a direct result of his inability to move his feet to stay in front of defenders and he e constantly gets caught of position and reaches to make up for it.

Yes, he gets the occasional spectacular weak side block, but unfortunately too often it's offset by his poor rebounding and fouling.

Blatche isn't going to get us closer to a championship than Jamison, regardless of whom he is paired with on the current roster.
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Post#302 » by fishercob » Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:03 pm

ihatewes wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Okay, now this is the most disturbing quote on this board in a very long time that I'm shocked noone else picked up on. I'm no germaphobe, if its gotta be done I can take care of business in a store, on a plane, or even Amtrak, but there's no way I would ever use the facilities at the phone booth for a #2 AFTER a game, when 1,000's of fans have already run through there. Maaaaybe before a game if it looks freshly cleaned, but no way post-game. I met Mr. Cob last night, perfectly nice, seemingly healthy guy, but I'm afraid this news has changed my total perception of him. :crazy:



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Post#303 » by queridiculo » Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:07 pm

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And I know there are some among us that bring their laptops on to the throne with them. Have no shame. We are men!


Ah yes, the laptop has certainly replaced newspapers and magazines in this household. Now if those buggers didn't get so darn hot it might be possible to enjoy longer sessions.

Given the choice of broiling my jacobs and cutting a minute of stool time I prefer the later.
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Post#304 » by fishercob » Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:10 pm

Careful with those things though:

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/17664.php
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Post#305 » by nate33 » Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:12 pm

This thread has gone from bad to worse.
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Post#306 » by fishercob » Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:13 pm

nate33 wrote:This thread has gone from bad to worse.


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Post#307 » by nate33 » Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:19 pm

hermitkid wrote:Alright, can we put this myth to rest that Blatche is somehow a significantly better defender than Jamison?

His high foul rate is a direct result of his inability to move his feet to stay in front of defenders and he e constantly gets caught of position and reaches to make up for it.

Yes, he gets the occasional spectacular weak side block, but unfortunately too often it's offset by his poor rebounding and fouling.

Blatche isn't going to get us closer to a championship than Jamison, regardless of whom he is paired with on the current roster.

Not to nitpick, but I wouldn't call Blatche a poor rebounder. His rebounding rate is a pretty solid 14.8, just barely behind Haywood (15.0) and Jamison (15.5). He averages 10.0 rebounds per 40.

I agree that his defense is inconsistent at best, and he is highly prone to defensive mistakes. I don't necessarily think his defensive problems are due to slow feet, however. I think it's just poor technique and a general lack of veteran savvy. He will one day be a much better defender than Jamison.
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Post#308 » by queridiculo » Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:27 pm

fishercob wrote:Careful with those things though:

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/17664.php


Interesting. Is it to late for a patent on scrotal heatshields?
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Post#309 » by queridiculo » Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:28 pm

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Not to nitpick, but I wouldn't call Blatche a poor rebounder. His rebounding rate is a pretty solid 14.8, just barely behind Haywood (15.0) and Jamison (15.5). He averages 10.0 rebounds per 40.


My Blatche hate is strong.

Just curious, how many of those rebounds are from own missed layups ;)
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Post#310 » by long suffrin' boulez fan » Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:35 pm

nate33 wrote: This was not the Caron Butler than went toe-to-toe with Pierce last December. I hope we can find the time to rest him for a game or two.



Don't we at least clinch the 5th spot if we win the next two? If so, EJ will have a serious choice to make: go after the 4th spot or rest some players for a few days.

Incidentally, what are the possible dates for the first playoff games?
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Post#311 » by Spence » Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:37 pm

nate33 wrote:Not to nitpick, but I wouldn't call Blatche a poor rebounder. His rebounding rate is a pretty solid 14.8, just barely behind Haywood (15.0) and Jamison (15.5). He averages 10.0 rebounds per 40.
That's not nitpicking, that's quoting the facts. Last year, Blatche was tied with Etan for best rebounding on the team. He's not a bad rebounder at all. Far from it.

nate33 wrote:I agree that his defense is inconsistent at best, and he is highly prone to defensive mistakes. I don't necessarily think his defensive problems are due to slow feet, however. I think it's just poor technique and a general lack of veteran savvy. He will one day be a much better defender than Jamison.
Concur, though I would add the caveat that Blatche one days SHOULD be a better defender than Jamison.

It's easy to forget that Blatche is still the youngest player on the team. Not everyone can be a stud before his 23rd birthday.
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Post#312 » by BanndNDC » Thu Apr 10, 2008 10:40 pm

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I'm like Geroge Costanza with my knowledge of good bathrooms in the city.


So, is there a better can then the one in Mie N Yu?

A friend of mine and I have had a long running discussion on the worst places in the city. The Roadhouse long held an esteemed position on the top of the list, but following its closure the spot is up for grabs. Millie and Al's is the current favorite with Tony and Joe's being a darkhorse contender.

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Post#313 » by hands11 » Fri Apr 11, 2008 2:16 am

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:hands, keep the fight. I'm giving in to reason and seeing where I've been wrong a lot.

I need you to stay strong in the anti-EJ posts, hands!

I agree with a vast majority of your nitpicking of EJ's subs. Lately, however, the man's been winning. He's been winning me over. I'm slipping back into the abyss of the dark side.

You, hands, and Lyrical, and a few others KNOW Eddie's not a great coach and he's underutilized some good players and he's overutilized players at times that weren't getting it done.

Continue to consider EJ an idiot and at the very least be surprised if he proves to be otherwise.

Soon as I stop being so open-minded I'm gonna drink me some Haterade so I can criticize all that is Eddie Jordan. :) Nobody else will but hands and I will say this, but the big three won't win a championship. Either Blatche will have to play PF with Haywood for defensive purposes, or the lineups must be shuffled to have two of the big three with three other solid defenders.

The thing I agree most with hands on is that the Wizards starting forwards don't defend well enough against big teams, and EJ doesn't seem to recognize that. He also will play Songaila at C a lot and that could spell doom.

Why I'm OTOH very encouraged is I like what I'm seeing from EJ. Quiet. Calm. Determined. Focused. Encouraging towardshis players. Confident in his team.

Jordan might have some things go his way real soon. He's due. The players are getting healthy at the right time and the league is rightfully taking notice of the Wizards, and the good job EJ's done this season through adversity.


I appreciate the support. Thanks

I'm not all against EJ. I come out and give props to him sometimes. Hell, I even bit my tongue so as to just enjoy the win. I even posted as much. Someone else brought it up. I just commented on what (I) would have preferred. Some will agree. Some won't. It's shouldn't start a lot of negitive posting though.

I think I miss read what DCZard posted. I thought he said we would of lost. He said they may have lost. Even so, I guess I still don't get the point in that comment since mine was we may have won by more. It's all conjecture. People have their views.

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DS was -13

I was looking for a little more fire power with the starters. RM or NY for DS.

But like I said, it's all about EJ in my eyes right now. Well EJ and GA. I think we have the horses and they are ready to run. Hopefully he uses them well.

Luck has already shined on EJ. GA injury was the best thing that could have happened to him. With GA coming off the bench we are better spreading our talent. Bringing one of GA or AJ off the bench has been a option for years but he never had the nads to do it.

There has been several options available and at different times, different ones made sense. Right now, no way you don't start AJ but there was time ( last year ) that bringing him off the bench would have been wise.

I like the way things have worked out but it was GAs injury that allowed it to happen, not EJ selecting to make it happen. GA injury enabled us to do the things I wanted to see. We got to see the team over a long period with a PG (AD). We got one of AJ or GA off the court with the starters so there was more room to operate for the other 2 and the rest of the team to contribute. As a result, CA and AJ have grown and have taken control of the team. We got to develop our other players and our youngs. BH established himself in the post. And now that GA has returned, we have an awesome 2nd line that is experienced enough to run with him which give the other team no rest and us tones to depth. Currently, I have no problem with anyone on this team playing prime time except OP.

But in my humble view, NY should still be used. He is way to talented to sit and the drop off in creative individual skills is huge when you pull GA. Some games it won't matter because DS is hitting, but against athletic line ups ( which EJ has a problem with see ATL ) I think NY would help. I would like to see it tried.

So here to our team being ready to make a run with all our horses in the barn even if they aren't all 100% healthy.

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Post#314 » by hands11 » Fri Apr 11, 2008 2:34 am

nate33 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-


Not to nitpick, but I wouldn't call Blatche a poor rebounder. His rebounding rate is a pretty solid 14.8, just barely behind Haywood (15.0) and Jamison (15.5). He averages 10.0 rebounds per 40.

I agree that his defense is inconsistent at best, and he is highly prone to defensive mistakes. I don't necessarily think his defensive problems are due to slow feet, however. I think it's just poor technique and a general lack of veteran savvy. He will one day be a much better defender than Jamison.


I totally agree. AB actually has very quick feet. He just doesn't know when to back off a little. He gets way to aggressive when he is covering smaller quicker players out of the perimeter. He gets into them to much for to long and gets nailed every time because he is out in open space where it's just so obvious to the refs.

My main beef with AB is him not slamming the dame ball more. He doesn't have to best leaps so that may be part of it. But part is also knowing how to use your body. Haywood was softer in the post in the past. But in time he learned. Hell, he used to bring the ball down and get it stolen a lot. He learned over time so that doesn't happen like it used to. AB is still a pup. Basically 2nd year 7-0 tall ultra talented pup. He will get better. Hopefully he has a focused summer with no trouble and he hits the weights.

I expect his break out year to be next year. Pair that with NY breaking out next year and we look sick.
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Post#315 » by fugop » Fri Apr 11, 2008 2:35 pm

BanndNDC wrote:A friend of mine and I have had a long running discussion on the worst places in the city. The Roadhouse long held an esteemed position on the top of the list, but following its closure the spot is up for grabs. Millie and Al's is the current favorite with Tony and Joe's being a darkhorse contender.

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The basement bathroom at Townhouse Tavern, 17th & R, is the worst I've seen in the city. I'm reluctant to piss in it. It's a dive bar frequented by politicos.
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Post#316 » by Donkey McDonkerton » Fri Apr 11, 2008 2:48 pm

I know its not "local" but there is a bar at Virginia Tech that has the WORST bathrooms in the history of bathrooms. I think it was Big Al's (big gay boat ride or something)

long urinal trough with mirrors in front of you...
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Post#317 » by fugop » Fri Apr 11, 2008 3:23 pm

At TH, the toilet doesn't flush well, there's no cover on the reservoir, the sink always trickles cold water (you can't turn it off, you can't turn it on), the drywall is crumbling everywhere (water damage), the door doesn't close (you've got to wedge your foot against it while you take a piss), and the actual toilet seat is crumbling. There's no way it would pass any sort of health inspection.

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