Jefferson ponders his future

[vincecarter4pres]

I could see trading RJ for Okafur since he's a FA. Only problem is Okafur wants a lot of money. If Rod thinks he's worth that much cash pull the trigger.

See thinking about it, future salary cap aside, trading for Okafur might be the perfect scenario. He might actaully be the answer, at least to bring us to the EC Finals for 2-3 years and actually compete for 6-7 games.

But, that scenario would be only if we traded for him and kept RJ.
And that would entail Okafor signing a fair contract, not a bloated one.
And that would mean Ratner would take on a lot of salary.

Also he might be a waste of money, cause even though he is a superb defender, he isn't going to help our perimeter D, and those failings will lead to him even if it is not his fault.

So.....................

[kamaze]

Would you VC4P consider this team now horrendous?

[kamaze]

West, Aldridge, Brand, JO. Those are the only ones remotely close to getting.

Brainfart who's West?

[vincecarter4pres]

West, Aldridge, Brand, JO. Those are the only ones remotely close to getting.

I believe David West, although I don't see a snowball chance in hell him or Aldridge is available.

Must be good crack.

[vincecarter4pres]

Yes, but it honestly should be a 44-48 win team next year almost as is.
That is barring any major injuries.
Also that would be with 2 decent additions, whether that is through FA or the draft.

[kamaze]

See thinking about it, future salary cap aside, trading for Okafur might be the perfect scenario. He might actaully be the answer, at least to bring us to the EC Finals for 2-3 years and actually compete for 6-7 games.

But, that scenario would be only if we traded for him and kept RJ.
And that would entail Okafor signing a fair contract, not a bloated one.
And that would mean Ratner would take on a lot of salary.

Also he might be a waste of money, cause even though he is a superb defender, he isn't going to help our perimeter D, and those failings will lead to him even if it is not his fault.

So.....................

Yeah a lot of problems for Thorn to deal with. I know you don't want to hear it but getting rid of Carter's contract is one way to make this team better. Firing the coach is another.

[vincecarter4pres]

I could be wrong, I usually am, but I just don't see Carter getting traded. His contract is actually just what we want, it expires at the perfect time.

Plus he sells tickets.

This team already has a problem with attendance.

Imagine if we are a 20-28 win team for 2 to 3 years?

Ugly.

[kamaze]

Agreed I don't know how to act without the Nets in the playoffs but whatever's best for the team. Don't think we'll get any good FA's to sign here
Thorn or should I say Kiki needs to make good lottery pick(s). 2nd rounder as well.

[kamaze]

It'll be hard to get something worthwhile for Carter.
Speak for yourself his contract is not what I want 3 years from now is a long time. Don't think his body will hold up that long.

Attendance at the Meadowlands has allways been embaressing. Such a shame the franchise has to make moves out of fear the fans will stop coming to games. I don't think it's possible for this team to only win 28 games.
They'd have to have multiple injuries to the starting lineup...although maybe then the coach would get fired.

[vincecarter4pres]

You are missing my point.
I am saying a 20-28 win team without Carter, with basically what we have now plus this years draft picks.

Maybe we would trade Carter for draft picks and an expiring and stay under the cap without signing any FA's for a couple years or so.
That way we get some solid lotto picks of our own for the next few years.

[jerseyjac]

its that time of year...RJ knows, we know it...We're a non playoff team, the Lottery is ahead, then the draft and trade speculation will fill the months to come...

Its definitely difficult to get a deal done no matter who your talking about, VC or RJ...one may look better financially, both have had more than solid years, one is younger than the other...but in all honesty, I see it being a long shot either way, unless some team is really looking to shake things up...

[kamaze]

I think they'd win more than 28 games without Carter but that's just my opinion.
This is the east it's hard not to make the playoffs.

Unlike RJ Vince has had his worst year and thus his stock is low.
Honestly I don't know if he'll be as good as he was in the past and he doesn't need to be Devin Harris is very capable and RJ has allready shown he can put up all star worthy stats.

As RJ said

Another year together, Jefferson concedes, would "definitely be ... I won't say better, but at least you have your team, you'll have training camp, you'll get off to a fresh start for everyone. No one is under the gun, there's no pressure. It's, 'Hey, let's see what we can do.'"

So maybe the best bet may be to keep RJ I don't know.

[dacher]

Yes, but it honestly should be a 44-48 win team next year almost as is.
That is barring any major injuries.
Also that would be with 2 decent additions, whether that is through FA or the draft.

I sadly disagree. After a honeymoon period just after the Kidd trade, the team still looks broken, even with VC playing at "Player of Month" level, RJ being pretty consistent for the entire season. At best, without major change to core (which includes coach), we'd still end up fighting for 7th or 8th spot again. Probably hovering around 41 wins -- 50%.

There's no reason to think we'll be better than 6 of the EC teams now above us in the rankings

So I'm all for one or more major change: coaching, major player trade, trading up draft for impact player (I don't watch NCAA so I don't know who that player would be.)

[vincecarter4pres]

I could see us being a very good home team next year.
Maybe 29-12.

Then a very bad road team.

Maybe 15-26.

[jerseycarter15]

Not for nothing, but it just seems(which we all know is true)that you want VC gone.
I don't think Rod would trade VC just for expirings and draft picks, unless those picks were non lottery protected from a ish team, probrably including a lotto pick from this year, so we could combine that with ours to move up to 3-5.
Like I have stated, and most would agree, this team will be herrendous(I really need to learn how to spell that word) without VC, unless we get a stud back, even if that is a rookie stud, such as a Mayo if he pans out. Nobody has a crystal ball though, so how do you know if that hyped up rook is gonna flourish?(I don't mean you personally)

He is a Carter hater

[mack69]

I think RJ is looking for the exit!!!!!!!!

After a very good year and with myself finally starting to like the guy. But just Dave D from ledger reported he is thinking that RJ may be moved.

The only player would be Brand!!!!!!!!!!!! and add a shooter like Mike Miller.

And if that does happen it will take RJ and Boone and one of the first round picks. A draft night deal!!!!!!!

[Pugsley_2491]

Pritchard said he wanted granger right? so maybe we could work something out like granger to POR, Aldridge to NJ, and RJ to IND. Obviously that's just an outline but something along the lines of that. Idk I just thought of this, prolly unrealistic but hey. If IND thinks they could have a scary 1-2 punch with JO and RJ.

[G_MoNeY]

It'll be hard to get something worthwhile for Carter.
Speak for yourself his contract is not what I want 3 years from now is a long time. Don't think his body will hold up that long.

Attendance at the Meadowlands has allways been embaressing. Such a shame the franchise has to make moves out of fear the fans will stop coming to games. I don't think it's possible for this team to only win 28 games.
They'd have to have multiple injuries to the starting lineup...although maybe then the coach would get fired.

based on what? For the last 5 years, he's played at least 73 games or more. He had two injury-plagued seasons, which were serious injuries mind you, in 2001-2003. He's been nothing but a soldier since then.

[G_MoNeY]

And the surgery that will likely happen this offseason is minor. RJ had the same procedure done last year. It's a 3-4 week rehab/recovery and rest type of thing. Rest being critical.

[G_MoNeY]

I think they'd win more than 28 games without Carter but that's just my opinion.
This is the east it's hard not to make the playoffs.

Unlike RJ Vince has had his worst year and thus his stock is low.
Honestly I don't know if he'll be as good as he was in the past and he doesn't need to be Devin Harris is very capable and RJ has allready shown he can put up all star worthy stats.

As RJ said

Another year together, Jefferson concedes, would "definitely be ... I won't say better, but at least you have your team, you'll have training camp, you'll get off to a fresh start for everyone. No one is under the gun, there's no pressure. It's, 'Hey, let's see what we can do.'"

So maybe the best bet may be to keep RJ I don't know.

Are you a Nets fan? Have you watched the games? If you think we surpass what we did this year WITHOUT VC, you're CRAZY! Frank finally saw the light and handed the reigns over to VC these last 15 games or so...if that didn't happen, we'd be in the Memphis/Clippers range of our record. No joke!