Hakeem vs Drob: Defense Only

Post #1 » by **Harry Palmer** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 1:17 am

Hakeem.

Best defensive player I've ever seen.

kooldude · Post #2 » by **kooldude** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 1:17 am

Who's better on defense only?

Kobay · Post #3 » by **Kobay** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 1:49 am

Here its is. Dream = GOAT

Post #4 » by **tkb** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 1:53 am

Push IMO. Robinson was a defensive beast before the injury

That Nicka · Post #5 » by **That Nicka** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 1:53 am

Dream

Post #6 » by **tsherkin** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 5:03 pm

Olajuwon, but it wasn't a very large gap. They were quite similar defensively and athletically.

Magz50 · Post #7 » by **Magz50** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:42 pm

D Rob by a scratch.

JordansBulls · Post #8 » by **JordansBulls** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 9:34 pm

Hakeem but not by much.

Myth_Breaker · Post #9 » by **Myth_Breaker** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 9:51 pm

Magz50 wrote:D Rob by a scratch.

Why - except you're a Spurs fan? ;-)

Hakeem was at least just as dominant under the basket, while being more versatile defensively further from the basket. So why to choose Robinson here?

Blame Rasho · Post #10 » by **Blame Rasho** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 9:53 pm

Myth_Breaker wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Why - except you're a Spurs fan? Hakeem was at least just as dominant under the basket, while being more versatile defensively further from the basket. So why to choose Robinson here?

Huh?

Robinson was able to guard small forwards in his prime...

Anyways it is a push. It depends on who you saw more...

Myth_Breaker · Post #11 » by **Myth_Breaker** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 9:58 pm

Blame Rasho wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Huh?

Robinson was able to guard small forwards in his prime...

Not as much as Hakeem, you another-Spurs-fan. BTW, if you were to change your nick, why not to stay with that simple yet great message: Kobe is the Man?

Anyways it is a push. It depends on who you saw more...

No, it isn't. BTW, as to stats: Olajuwon lead the league in both rebounds and blocks twice, while Robinson - only once, and as to rebounds only because Hakeem due to injury didn't register totals (by like mere 5 boards) sufficient to have his superior average counted.

Blame Rasho · Post #12 » by **Blame Rasho** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 10:01 pm

[quote="Myth_Breaker"][/quote]

April Fools joke that got me one too many PM's...lol.

Myth_Breaker · Post #13 » by **Myth_Breaker** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 10:05 pm

Blame Rasho wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

April Fools joke that got me one too many PM's...lol.

Too late: you'll be remembered here as Lakers/Kobe fan forever. ;-)

But honestly: why to return to Rasho from TD in your nick then?

Blame Rasho · Post #14 » by **Blame Rasho** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 10:07 pm

Myth_Breaker wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Too late: you'll be remembered here as Lakers/Kobe fan forever.

But honestly: why to return to Rasho from TD in your nick then?

Well I said I would leave realgm in a thread when Rasho posts a 20/10 game... well last week he had back to back 20/10 games. I wasn't going to leave... so I tried changing my name to Rasho is the MAN, but it had too many characters so I used my signature quote as my sign in name "Blame Rasho" as my new name until the Spurs get eliminated.

Myth_Breaker · Post #15 » by **Myth_Breaker** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 10:13 pm

Blame Rasho wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Well I said I would leave realgm in a thread when Rasho posts a 20/10 game... well last week he had back to back 20/10 games. I wasn't going to leave... so I tried changing my name to Rasho is the MAN, but it had too many characters so I used my signature quote as my sign in name "Blame Rasho" as my new name until the Spurs get eliminated.

OK, I get it: reminds me of Barkley's Yao bet. :-)

But it's a great way to deal with you in a future: once you say something, we may always answer: shouldn't you be already outside RealGM, Rasho-hater? ;-)

emunney · Post #16 » by **emunney** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 5:11 am

Predrag Drobnjak easily.

Blame Rasho · Post #17 » by **Blame Rasho** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 5:16 am

emunney wrote:Predrag Drobnjak easily.

HOF

Classic

GOAT

WadeKnicks2010 · Post #18 » by **WadeKnicks2010** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 7:19 pm

Tough but i think its Dream.

Post #19 » by **tkb** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 9:27 pm

Myth_Breaker wrote:No, it isn't. BTW, as to stats: Olajuwon lead the league in both rebounds and blocks twice, while Robinson - only once, and as to rebounds only because Hakeem due to injury didn't register totals (by like mere 5 boards) sufficient to have his superior average counted.

Interesting how these two players are the only 2 players in nba history to average more than 2 steals and 4 blocks in the same season too. Both did it once.

Olajuwon with 4.6 blocks and 2.1 steals in 1990, while Robinson put up 4.5 blocks and 2.3 steals in 1992.

I still stand by my statement that this is as close to a push as you're going to get. Robinson pre-injury was a defensive beast.

Both were blazing quick for centers, both had excellent anticipation, both very incredibly strong man on man defenders and both were great rebounders. Hakeem was probably a tad quicker while the Admiral had more size so I really do think this is very close.

David Robinson has become one of the more underrated all time greats IMO.

Post #20 » by **Harry Palmer** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 9:34 pm

[quote="tkb"][/quote]

I agree about Robinson being really underrated, but...you actually think he was bigger than Hakeem? Maybe taller, but that's negated by Hakeem's freak arms, and Hakeem was heavier and stronger, as cut as the Admiral was.

The greatest difference between them to me, though, wasn't so much physical. Both were freaks...I think you can actually argue that Robinson was the greater linear athlete, though Hakeem was, imo, the greatest integrated athlete among all NBA big men, ever...but Hakeem's semi-tangible things, like footwork, timing, balance, instinctive feel for contact, etc...that's where they really separated.