The East and MVP voting
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The East and MVP voting
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The East and MVP voting
In the past twenty years, only two players from the Eastern conference have won the MVP award: AI and Jordan.
Jordan won it 5 times and AI won it once. So 70% of the time the MVP has gone out West.
So take away the GOAT, and the East has basically won the MVP once in the past twenty years.
If Garnett wins, he'll be with some fairly unique company.
Jordan won it 5 times and AI won it once. So 70% of the time the MVP has gone out West.
So take away the GOAT, and the East has basically won the MVP once in the past twenty years.
If Garnett wins, he'll be with some fairly unique company.
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C'mon Cavs wrote:Well, LeBron is the best player in the NBA, so I'd expect the East to have another MVP in another year or two.
But the thinking around Lebron is "he's young he's got plenty of time to get it"
If they keep snubbing him like that he won't be so young and be robbed of half a dozen MVPs.
The award shouldn't be taken too serious anymore. The fact that Chris Paul is not going to win says it all.
You can't use the production or team success argument to deny him the trophy because no one else comes close to being tops in both.
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bstein14 wrote:KG isn't going to win it its Paul or Kobe...
Two man race right now.
Co-signed.
And LeBron and Dwight are ahead of KG in voting, IMO.
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The fact is, that in 1987-1988, Larry Legend was second in the voting, so he would have won it if Jordan hadn't. Some would say that Pippen was an MVP-caliber player and he could have won the award as Chicago's leader if Jordan wasn't on them. Changing history means you're changing the circumstances, so it's hard to say who would have won if Jordan hadn't.
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Pippen would not been winning MVPs if not for Jordan. I think you look back at the 90s and some might say that MJ was the best player in the league but was the next group of great players all in the West?
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Anticon wrote:In the past twenty years, only two players from the Eastern conference have won the MVP award: AI and Jordan.
Jordan won it 5 times and AI won it once. So 70% of the time the MVP has gone out West.
So take away the GOAT, and the East has basically won the MVP once in the past twenty years.
If Garnett wins, he'll be with some fairly unique company.
I think it's unwise to try to make such a statement about the last 20 years, I'd stick to the last 10.
As for Garnett being in some unique company if he wins, he sure will. I think he'll be only the 2nd player in history to win the MVP with his team winning 7 games without him. The first was of course Bill Walton whose team won 8 games without him. Of course Walton missed 22 games and Garnett's missed only 9.
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Garnett dosen't have the statistical numbers like the others.... but he posseses the other intangibles...His leadership is measured in his intense desire to win.... he takes every loss personal...
Before he became a Celtic, I never knew or even noticed this about him....he lights a fire in those around him....
KG has changed the whole complection of this team with that intense desire and the drive to succeed and to win.... its contageous!....and that's why he should be the leagues MVP IMO... just look at that Celtic turnaround from last year!... that didnt happen by accident!
Garnett is the heart and soul of the Celtics...and irreguardless of how the MVP voting goes, he's #1 in my book!
Before he became a Celtic, I never knew or even noticed this about him....he lights a fire in those around him....
KG has changed the whole complection of this team with that intense desire and the drive to succeed and to win.... its contageous!....and that's why he should be the leagues MVP IMO... just look at that Celtic turnaround from last year!... that didnt happen by accident!
Garnett is the heart and soul of the Celtics...and irreguardless of how the MVP voting goes, he's #1 in my book!

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Celtsfan1980 wrote:The fact is, that in 1987-1988, Larry Legend was second in the voting, so he would have won it if Jordan hadn't. Some would say that Pippen was an MVP-caliber player and he could have won the award as Chicago's leader if Jordan wasn't on them. Changing history means you're changing the circumstances, so it's hard to say who would have won if Jordan hadn't.
Really though, how many MVP candidates were there from the East in the 90s? Jordan, Reggie Miller, and Ewing. I don't think Pippen would ever have been a serious candidate without Jordan.
Out West you had Barkley, Hakeem, Drexler, Robinson, Malone as top candidates, and lower tier guys like Stockton, Payton, and even a young Duncan and Shaq.
That distorts itself even further in this decade, until this year. Out West there was Shaq, Duncan, Kobe, Garnett, Nash, Nowitzki. Out East there was AI, Lebron, and Wade.
I just think it's an interesting trend.
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Anticon wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Really though, how many MVP candidates were there from the East in the 90s? Jordan, Reggie Miller, and Ewing. I don't think Pippen would ever have been a serious candidate without Jordan.
Out West you had Barkley, Hakeem, Drexler, Robinson, Malone as top candidates, and lower tier guys like Stockton, Payton, and even a young Duncan and Shaq.
That distorts itself even further in this decade, until this year. Out West there was Shaq, Duncan, Kobe, Garnett, Nash, Nowitzki. Out East there was AI, Lebron, and Wade.
I just think it's an interesting trend.
Pippen finished third the year Jordan wasn't around. He was a serious candidate.
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