Why can't NBA crowds be like this ?

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Post#121 » by wigglestrue » Fri Apr 11, 2008 12:44 pm

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To be fair, mate, I went to two Celtics games last year and the crowd were rubbish. I know the team sucked last season, but people seemed to be more interested in getting on the jumbotron than watching the actual game.


The team did suck, it was one of the worst teams in professional sports, and people were probably less interested in the game. Understandably. If fans at most of the games last year were rooting and watching as intensely as they are this year, then there'd be something wrong with them IMO, in other words they wouldn't have been paying attention to the game.
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Post#122 » by 5DOM » Fri Apr 11, 2008 12:46 pm

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To be fair, mate, I went to two Celtics games last year and the crowd were rubbish. I know the team sucked last season, but people seemed to be more interested in getting on the jumbotron than watching the actual game.


i would have rather gone to a funeral than last year's celtics game.

so like you said, thats kinda unfair.
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Post#123 » by 5DOM » Fri Apr 11, 2008 12:47 pm

btw i think toronto fans define intensity.

the loudest moment they get is when we score 100points so they can get free pizzas.
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Post#124 » by The_Pope » Fri Apr 11, 2008 12:53 pm

My point being that even when the team is awful in Europe (for soccer anyway), the crowd will still get right behind them and try to give them a lift. This is indicative of the differences.
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Post#125 » by 5DOM » Fri Apr 11, 2008 1:03 pm

The_Pope wrote:My point being that even when the team is awful in Europe (for soccer anyway), the crowd will still get right behind them and try to give them a lift. This is indicative of the differences.


that is true.

small cities with size less than a tenth of boston would still sell out most games even when facing relegation.
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Post#126 » by wigglestrue » Fri Apr 11, 2008 1:06 pm

The_Pope wrote:My point being that even when the team is awful in Europe (for soccer anyway), the crowd will still get right behind them and try to give them a lift. This is indicative of the differences.


Maybe that's because EVERY SOCCER GAME IS 1-0. :lol: J/K
Almost every soccer game is up for grabs until the final whistle.
All it takes usually is one score.

I think the philosophy here is: Intensity on the court gets rewarded with intensity in the stands. But if people overseas think cheering from the stands at a basketball game will overcome a 20+ point deficit with 6 minutes to go for a team that has virtually no chance to win because its management has openly given up on competing that season, more power to them.
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Post#127 » by J-Mezzy » Fri Apr 11, 2008 1:09 pm

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Great post ****. Unfortunately for you it's completely wrong. Even with Euroleague and all the other tournaments you still don't have a basketball team that plays more than 40 games in a season. Same thing goes for soccer teams who also don't play more than 40 games in a season. I'm also very sorry that you don't have the luxary of watching the real sport of football where guys get leveled every play and it's actually high scoring. When it comes to college sports it sucks that you will never enjoy march madness and bowl games because they truly are the greatest sporting events on the planet.


I always find it funy that you guys knock on soccer for not being as hich scoring as Football when in football, a team probably scores 2 or 3 touchdowns, just because you make it 6 points + extra point doesn't mean is high scoring.

Soccer game that finishes 3-2 would be 21-14 by your standard and let's add a point for every shot at goal that doesn't go in (extra point or Field goal) you can easily have 28-20 score.

I love Football as much as the next guy but stop criticizing soccer based on this stupidity
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Post#128 » by wigglestrue » Fri Apr 11, 2008 1:10 pm

5DOM wrote:that is true.

small cities with size less than a tenth of boston would still sell out most games even when facing relegation.


When I played little league baseball and my team was losing by 15 runs in the 6th inning, the parents of players on my team would cheer for us just as hard. So basically, these small cities root for their teams even if they're awful, kind of like a parent would? Unconditional support? Well, I guess that makes sense, seeing how those fans have little else to cheer for. They don't really have a choice. We do. When the Celtics were openly tanking last year, we could pay attention to the Sox. If we decided to go to a game last, we weren't so desperate as to cheer wildly for a team that isn't even trying that hard.
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Post#129 » by J-Mezzy » Fri Apr 11, 2008 1:21 pm

To be honest, when me and my family where in Colombia, we used to say how it would be nice to enjoy the games like Americans do. It is nice
and safe. I do miss the chants and the intensity a bit. I go to Magic games and feel like a damn moron being the only one screaming defense, let's go Magic Let's go, or the only one jumping.

I think this thread is ridiculous in general, Americans and internationals claiming their fans are better. The fans are different. There are things to be learned from each other, but let each enjoy the game as he damn pleases.
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Post#130 » by wigglestrue » Fri Apr 11, 2008 1:23 pm

J-Mezzy wrote:I think this thread is ridiculous in general, Americans and internationals claiming their fans are better. The fans are different. There are things to be learned from each other, but let each enjoy the game as he damn pleases.


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Post#131 » by aura » Fri Apr 11, 2008 2:52 pm

C'mon guys, NBA fans don't stand a chance against European fans in terms of intensity and physical passion. The culture is different over here. People are concerned about their image, even in front of people they will never see again. You know how you get those occasional die-hard fans who come shirtless with paint all over their body, and they get put on ESPNs Top 10, well almost everybody in a European game is like them! On top of that, ticket prices are way to high over here. The people who tend to go to these games consistently tend to be upper-middle to upper-class people. Mostly, these people tend to be very reserved, mannered and older. I mean, most of the lower bowl seats in Air Canada Center are always over $100. Another reason you won't get the intensity is just how the NBA game tends to be changing. Its not as physical anymore, its much more guarded and that reflects into the crowd. Its become a bit more boring with less contact. There are security-guards everywhere and its like if you do anything wrong, the police will come in and take you away. Its a much more controlled environment, while European games sound like someone is going to war(and thats a damn good feeling when you're there). And if anyone disagrees that NBA games can get as loud and passionate as European games, watch this:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=XgWjx2rI-f4
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Post#132 » by wigglestrue » Fri Apr 11, 2008 3:10 pm

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=XgWjx2rI-f4


That's pretty crazy, indeed.

Question: Are they paying attention to the game?

Sub-question: If it were a political rally, how would we know the difference?
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Post#133 » by Cevap » Fri Apr 11, 2008 6:07 pm

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To be fair, mate, I went to two Celtics games last year and the crowd were rubbish. I know the team sucked last season, but people seemed to be more interested in getting on the jumbotron than watching the actual game.



They tried to show off those stylish pink hats for the Red Sox Nation members in attendence. It's kinda like a secret handshake to them.
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Post#134 » by El Turco » Fri Apr 11, 2008 7:26 pm

wigglestrue wrote:
Question: Are they paying attention to the game?


nope, they are cheering for the piece of ass they saw.

Sub-question: If it were a political rally, how would we know the difference?


great question.

if you see 6'5'' sweaty man in shorts shooting round substances in to a basket, then its a basketball game.

if you see a 65 year old guy with a outdated mustache and armed bodyguards, he is trying to take over the parliament.
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Post#135 » by wigglestrue » Fri Apr 11, 2008 7:50 pm

ElTurco wrote:great question.

if you see 6'5'' sweaty man in shorts shooting round substances in to a basket, then its a basketball game.

if you see a 65 year old guy with a outdated mustache and armed bodyguards, he is trying to take over the parliament.


:lol:
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Post#136 » by KNICKS1970 » Fri Apr 11, 2008 8:11 pm

wigglestrue wrote:I think the philosophy here is: Intensity on the court gets rewarded with intensity in the stands. But if people overseas think cheering from the stands at a basketball game will overcome a 20+ point deficit with 6 minutes to go for a team that has virtually no chance to win because its management has openly given up on competing that season, more power to them.


Well said.

Also, I know of many places in America where you can act belligerent and be more concerned with singing silly songs than watching the game. They're called "bars". You can also try and pickup girls at these places too, which put them at a level above European basketball arenas. :wink:

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