2007 vs. 2008

Post #1 » by **gswhoops** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 4:02 am

Which draft class is better, top to bottom? While I think the '07 class was better 1-5, I think '08 is MUCH deeper and overall better if you consider look at the top 20 or 30 guys in each draft.

sonic-ben · Post #2 » by **sonic-ben** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 4:17 am

wait three years please

_BBIB_ · Post #3 » by **_BBIB_** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 4:58 am

07 could have depth with guys like Thaddeus Young, Thornton, Bradan Wrigt, Critt, etc

It's way too early to project

BMiller52 · Post #4 » by **BMiller52** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 6:00 am

gswhoops I agree with you actually, but we're going to be called crazy because everyone is hyping up Oden and Durant and Horford. 1-5 07 is prolly better like you said but I would take a guy like Arthur at 12 over Thad Young, Augustin over someone like Noah, etc so I definitely think this 1 is definitely deeper. Too be honest I didn't really like 07 as much as everyone else did.

giberish · Post #5 » by **giberish** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 7:20 am

I'd say that Oden and Durant are above Rose and Beasley.

The 3-14 picks in both drafts look similar (in quality at least, there's more guards in 2008 and more forwards in 2007).

The 15+ picks for 2008 look better than the 15+ picks for 2007. Of course I remember liking the 15+ picks for the 2007 draft a lot better a few months out than I did by draft day, so maybe on closer inspection by June I won't like the 15+ picks for this year either.

Cammo101 · Post #6 » by **Cammo101** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 8:42 am

2007 was more top heavy, 2008 looks deeper. Of course this is a bit premature as we do not know who is in and who is out yet. Last years top 10 was better, this years top 40 is looking better.

Post #7 » by **wetsthebed** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 2:18 pm

I think if you take out Oden, the 2008 draft looks a lot better near the top. I think I'd rather have the number 5 pick in this draft over last year's.

deeney0 · Post #8 » by **deeney0** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 4:54 pm

If I were to make a bet, I'd say the 2008 class will best the 2007 class by most objective measures when its all said and done. But there's nothing much to base that one. Aside from Oden, it looks like the drafts may turn out remarkably similar.

Post #9 » by **UGA Hayes** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 4:56 pm

I think 07 is more top heavy and deeper. The 07 class is having a pretty dang good rookie year.

_BBIB_ · Post #10 » by **_BBIB_** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 7:53 pm

westthebest wrote:I think if you take out Oden, the 2008 draft looks a lot better near the top. I think I'd rather have the number 5 pick in this draft over last year's.

And if you take out Lebron the 07 class matches up more with the 03 class.

Silly thing to say

bill curley II · Post #11 » by **bill curley II** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 11:02 pm

People always think <current year>'s draft is a deep draft. Then it always turns out with people saying I knew so and so sucked. This year's not going to be any different. Depth wise, it's pretty similar IMO, but Rose and Beasley are not as good as Oden and Durant up top, and picks 3-10 this year are basically raw, unknowns and small guards, whereas last year at least there was some size.

DanTown8587 · Post #12 » by **DanTown8587** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 12:30 am

I think the top three are similar in terms of talent/value to a team in both years, but I would rather have pick 4-10 this year than last. But who the hell knows, you have to wait three years to make good evaluations of how the draft went and such.

_BBIB_ · Post #13 » by **_BBIB_** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 12:42 am

bill curley II wrote:People always think <current year>'s draft is a deep draft. Then it always turns out with people saying I knew so and so sucked. This year's not going to be any different. Depth wise, it's pretty similar IMO, but Rose and Beasley are not as good as Oden and Durant up top, and picks 3-10 this year are basically raw, unknowns and small guards, whereas last year at least there was some size.

Actually Rose and Beasley could match up favorably with Durant and Oden.

Only one of the four has ever played a game. We'll see what happens.

Post #14 » by **5DOM** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 3:48 am

_BBIB_ wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

And if you take out Lebron the 07 class matches up more with the 03 class.

Silly thing to say

03 would still dominate

_BBIB_ · Post #15 » by **_BBIB_** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 9:36 pm

5DOM wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

03 would still dominate

Oden, Durant, and Horford match up a whole lot more with Wade, Melo, and Bosh

deanx · Post #16 » by **deanx** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:06 pm

_BBIB_ wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Oden, Durant, and Horford match up a whole lot more with Wade, Melo, and Bosh

well the 08 hasn't played so who knows. But so far 07 has been pretty disappointing. Given how much hype they got, they have not done much. Oden has been out and his injury could affect his career. Durant is alright, FG is a bit low though. Horford is just solid, but nothing like how he was hyped. Pretty disappointing overall.

_BBIB_ · Post #17 » by **_BBIB_** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:31 pm

deanx wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

well the 08 hasn't played so who knows. But so far 07 has been pretty disappointing. Given how much hype they got, they have not done much. Oden has been out and his injury could affect his career. Durant is alright, FG is a bit low though. Horford is just solid, but nothing like how he was hyped. Pretty disappointing overall.

Both Durant and Horford matchup favorably with the rookie seasons of Bosh and Melo.

People just have convenient memories

ponder276 · Post #18 » by **ponder276** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:35 pm

deanx wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

well the 08 hasn't played so who knows. But so far 07 has been pretty disappointing. Given how much hype they got, they have not done much. Oden has been out and his injury could affect his career. Durant is alright, FG is a bit low though. Horford is just solid, but nothing like how he was hyped. Pretty disappointing overall.

People though Horford would average better than a double double in his rookie season? I think not.

Durant is scoring better than LeBron did in his rookie season (Durant: 20.0 ppg in 34.4 mpg, shooting .425/.287/.874 vs. LeBron: 20.9 ppg in 39.5 mpg, shooting .417/.290/.754), so I don't see how people aren't happy with his performance. He's been playing like a borderline allstar for the last month and a half as well.

Lots of promising players picked relatively low as well (Brandan Wright at 8th, Noah at 9th, Hawes at 10th, Thad at 12th, Julian Wright at 13th, Al Thornton at 14th, Stuckey at 15th, Nick Young at 16th, Sean Williams at 17th, Critt at 19th, Daequan at 21st, Dudley at 22nd, Rudy at 24th, Landry at 31st, big baby at 35th - all have shown a lot of potential this year).

This rookie class is only disapointing to those who had unreasonable expectations. It's been disappointing that Oden hasn't played, but other than that, it's looking like a pretty good draft year.

deeney0 · Post #19 » by **deeney0** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:49 pm

I'll take 03 without LeBron over 07 without Oden or 08, easy

DFolks · Post #20 » by **DFolks** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 12:39 am

bill curley II wrote:People always think <current year>'s draft is a deep draft. Then it always turns out with people saying I knew so and so sucked. This year's not going to be any different. Depth wise, it's pretty similar IMO, but Rose and Beasley are not as good as Oden and Durant up top, and picks 3-10 this year are basically raw, unknowns and small guards, whereas last year at least there was some size.

However, from picks 12-20 there may be all players that are 6'9 and above,mostly 6'10 or 6'11, and SF-C.....SO, this year has a lot of quality mid-1st round big men, just not Oden, Durant, and Horford.................................

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