#80. New Orleans Hornets @ LA Lakers. 7:30pm. FSN.

[semi-sentient]

wrong

[O.C Brandon]

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then why dont you ever criticize Lamar "Wilt Chamberlain" Odom

wow, so you're willing to see lamar criticized right now, he's been the best laker the last 3 weeks.

[incontrol__]

There's a huge difference between being picky and misanthropic.

You just added a word to my vocabulary.

[Sedale Threatt]

Kobe, to me, has to be the MVP now. But I have to say, as painful as it might be while he's dissecting your team, it is an absolute joy to watch Chris Paul play the point.

There isn't a single player on that team, besides maybe Pargo (blech), who can create his own offense. Stojakovic is little more than a spot-up shooter, Chandler can't do anything but dunk, West's go-to move is a 20-foot jumper. But with Paul running the show, each and every one of them is a viable threat on every possession.

What a genius he is.

[O.C Brandon]

fact is guys, the win wasn't impressive. lots of room for improvement. I don't want to take the mvp talk away from you guys, I couldn't less about that. I saw a 27-6 run made by the hornets and kobe didn't score a single point.

I think we need our best player to step up in these periods, that's how this all started, I'll leave it alone.

certain players can't be criticized, I don't like that.

[ChocolateThundr]

I wonder how good CP can be if he was 6-5 and still retain his current atheleticism

[milesfides]

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To be fair, Bryant's lack of D was pretty poor tonight, especially in the 4th when he sagged off Peja and he drained a few threes.

Albeit already in foul trouble and was helping out on the Paul penetration, he shouldve been closer up on the shooter.

There were a couple times when he got to Peja late, that's true, but some of those shots, Peja shot the ball very quickly and sometimes a bit off-balance. He's also a full 6'10". Kobe would have to jump into him to contest those shots, and I think it would be stupid of Kobe to risk fouling him, he's also a 92% free throw shooter.

[kno]

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wow, so you're willing to see lamar criticized right now, he's been the best laker the last 3 weeks.

The past three weeks?

Not according to the numbers, he hasnt.

At least not if you consider points, threes made, rebounds, assists, steals blocks, turnovers (-), fg%, and ft%.

Best player in the NBA the last 21 days has been Amare Stoudemire.

Bryant comes in second.

Lamar Odom comes in 19th.

[Minhee]

I agree with you that tonight was not an impressive win by any means. Actually, I am still pretty livid at the fact that we blew a 30 pt lead. I consider tonight a moral loss and if anything, the Hornets came away with more confidence should we meet in the playoffs.

However, Kobe played almost a perfect game. This is not the game to diss him yet you found ways to criticize him. If Kobe shoots 19 for 20, dishes out 15 assists, 10 rebounds and get 7 steals you will probably clown on him for that lone miss saying what a terrible shot it was and how he needs to learn to take a better shot.

[B-Scott]

Sedale - If the superstar is shooting a low percentage,yet keeps taking 25 footers im going to point it out. Not make excuses for why he takes those long range shots.

Kobe's shot selection has improved and i have pointed this out. Im not some hater.

A hater is when you intentionally hate on someone even when they are playing well. I don't do that.

It's funny because something similair to this happened yesterday at a local gym i go to and this is a true story. This story is 100% accurate.

We were playing 3 on 3 at at a local gym and this guy who is 23 years old kept telling me, Did you take your arthritis medicine today? What's funny is he was saying this even after i brought us back from a 12-4 deficit. We were going up to 13 and i knocked down 6 straight shots and a friend of mine knocked down the 2 pointer to win the game. We play 2 pointers and go to 13.

The point is ,he was hating even when he lossed and got lit up. Thats what i call intentionally hating. If im getting lit up,i dont have much to say and just accept,im getting embarrased today.

Back to Kobe. Im not a Kobe hater. I give him his props when he steps up and right now he is stepping up.

[milesfides]

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Uhhhh you don't know what you are talking about. I criticize the team, not Kobe. If I am it is about certain shot selections, definitely not the same way you and B Scott knock on him. I am sure most ppl on this board will take my side.

You're pretty fair. You do bring a sprinkle of gloom and doom, especially when we're playing the Warriors, but we all love you for it.

[Minhee]

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You're pretty fair. You do bring a sprinkle of gloom and doom, especially when we're playing the Warriors, but we all love you for it.

Speaking of the Warriors if they get in the playoffs I am going to flip a switch. Judging by Denver's schedule it just might happen.

[Sedale Threatt]

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To be fair, Bryant's lack of D was pretty poor tonight, especially in the 4th when he sagged off Peja and he drained a few threes.

Albeit already in foul trouble and was helping out on the Paul penetration, he shouldve been closer up on the shooter.

I'd have to watch the game again to really digest his performance on that end. I just thought he seemed a lot more locked in and focused, especially when related to some of his recent performances, such as the Portland game.

It seemed to me that most of Peja's 3s resulted more from his incredible shooting skill than bad defense. We had a hand in his face on more than one, and he still drained them. Same goes for some of the shots Pargo hit.

Other the problems we had getting back in transition, as a team, I thought we actually played solid D tonight. At the very least, the effort was (largely) there.

[dockingsched]

one of peja's three's was right in odom's grill while lamar had his arms straight up inches away. peja was just on.


also, just noticed that despite playing similar minutes (20 mpg vs 17), farmar has like 50 more 3's than sasha despite shootingn 6% less. farmar needs to play a lot smarter. he's really good at taking it to the rim.

[LLcoleJ]

fact is guys, the win wasn't impressive. lots of room for improvement. I don't want to take the mvp talk away from you guys, I couldn't less about that. I saw a 27-6 run made by the hornets and kobe didn't score a single point.

I think we need our best player to step up in these periods, that's how this all started, I'll leave it alone.

certain players can't be criticized, I don't like that.

couple things....

1) Its important for teams to learn to fight back from adversity and show they can do it in the playoffs. Of course nobody likes to let up leads...but we won and there are things to be taken from this win.

2) Kobe had a great game and he doesnt need to score in bunches when he is passing to his teamates and they are hitting shots.
Remember : you are the guy that yells at Kobe to pass at other games...

3) Players can be criticized.. yet you havent shown any laker ball analysis ..every post is about Kobe should have done this or he should have done that.

Your agenda is obvious... and since I need to point out the obvious with you... there you go.

[milesfides]

Im not some hater.

A hater is when you intentionally hate on someone even when they are playing well. I don't do that.

Oh, like making it a point to talk about how Kobe lost a step after he played a terrific game and we got the win over the top seed in the Western Conference?

You're not a hater, right.

[dockingsched]

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The past three weeks?

Not according to the numbers, he hasnt.

At least not if you consider points, threes made, rebounds, assists, steals blocks, turnovers (-), fg%, and ft%.

Best player in the NBA the last 21 days has been Amare Stoudemire.

Bryant comes in second.

Lamar Odom comes in 19th.

no one said anything about best player in the nba, lol. you're too eager to bring odom down.

[zen_4_10]

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I'd have to watch the game again to really digest his performance on that end. I just thought he seemed a lot more locked in and focused, especially when related to some of his recent performances, such as the Portland game.

It seemed to me that most of Peja's 3s resulted more from his incredible shooting skill than bad defense. We had a hand in his face on more than one, and he still drained them. Same goes for some of the shots Pargo hit.

Other the problems we had getting back in transition, as a team, I thought we actually played solid D tonight. At the very least, the effort was (largely) there.

The reason why we got the big lead tonight was team D in the first Q - the crowd was into it, we were sharp and aggressive and Pau looked 7 feet out there - plus Chandler getting into early foul trouble helped.

As for transition D...when you miss 20 3 pointers the majority of those create long rebounds and pretty much replicate a TO and fast break for the other team. There is no time to even make the transition. Half of those misses tonight could easily have been considered TO's by that exact situation happening,

[RocketPower23]

Sedale - If the superstar is shooting a low percentage,yet keeps taking 25 footers im going to point it out. Not make excuses for why he takes those long range shots.

Kobe's shot selection has improved and i have pointed this out. Im not some hater.

A hater is when you intentionally hate on someone even when they are playing well. I don't do that.

It's funny because something similair to this happened yesterday at a local gym i go to and this is a true story. This story is 100% accurate.

We were playing 3 on 3 at at a local gym and this guy who is 23 years old kept telling me, Did you take your arthritis medicine today? What's funny is he was saying this even after i brought us back from a 12-4 deficit. We were going up to 13 and i knocked down 6 straight shots and a friend of mine knocked down the 2 pointer to win the game. We play 2 pointers and go to 13.

The point is ,he was hating even when he lossed and got lit up. Thats what i call intentionally hating. If im getting lit up,i dont have much to say and just accept,im getting embarrased today.

Back to Kobe. Im not a Kobe hater. I give him his props when he steps up and right now he is stepping up.

I especially liked your piece about how you beat EHL in a one on one without him even knowing and without you knowing what he looked like. That's my favorite BS story. Any other stories?

[LLcoleJ]

B-Scott saying he is not a Kobe hater is probably the best sig-worthy quote one could have.