Retooling the Knicks(WTF?)

vincecarter4pres · Post #1 » by **vincecarter4pres** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 7:57 pm

Alright hear me out.
I know everyone is like "Why? What is this all about? VC4pres was always an idiot that agravates me, but this is drawing the line. I hate this guy." But this is something I was thinking about last night and this morning.

The Knicks and Nets have had some trade partnerships in the past as well so..........

NY sends:
Malik Rose
Jamal Crawford

Cleveland sends:
Wally World
1st rounder from this draft

2nd Knicks trade
NY sends:
Q Rich
Jerome James
1st rounder non lotto protected from this draft

NJ sends:
RJ
Marcus
Dallas 1st rounder

3rd trade
NY sends:
Eddie Curry
Marbury

Indianna sends:
JO
Marquis Daniels

In the Indianna trade, if Indianna misses the playoffs, NY has the option to swap the Cleveland and Dallas picks for the Indianna lotto pick, top 3 protected.
If Indianna does make the playoffs they swap their draft pick with the lower of the 2, Dallas or Cleveland.

4th trade
NY sends:
Nate Robinson
Mardy Collins

Memphis sends:
Mike Conley

OR

NY sends:
Mardy Collins
2nd rounder

Memphis sends:
Kyle Lowery

OR

NY sends:
Jared Jefferies
2nd rounder from this years draft

Seattle Sends:
Either Ridnour or Watson

Or they just go with Nate and Marcus.

New NY lineup:
PG Nate Robinson, Marcus Williams or whoever they trade for or draft
SG Wally or Marquis
SF RJ
PF Randolph
C JO

Bench: David Lee, Chandler, Fred Jones, Nate if he doesn't start, whoever doesn't start between Wally and Marquis, draft picks.

This deal doesn't handicap NY any worse salary cap wise. Any contract they take on expires at basically the same time as the old ones, except RJ. Actaully saves em a little money. If they got a really good coach in there, and gelled, this is actually a team that can compete for the next 2 years, after which almost all their salary comes off the books, just in time to set them up to compete with the other NY team, us, for FA's.

NJ
PG Harris
SG Mayo
SF VC(untill he's traded)
PF Love or Boone
C Boone or Curly

bench: Whoever doesn't start between Q Rich and Mayo, so probrably Mayo cause Opie doesn't like to start rooks, Boki(if resigned), Hassel, S Will and whoever else this is basically a rebuilding team

At this point you can then basically trade Carter for expirings and draft picks and/or young prospects.

We get the rebuilding process we want, get rid of our big contracts, and move up in the draft to get Mayo.

There are all kinds of if's, but's and maybe's with these trades.
Then again both teams get to completely overhaul their respective rosters, the other trade partners get good value, NJ gets to rebuild and the Knicks, at least on paper, become instant contenders, while still keeping a lot of cap room after 2 years.

isekii · Post #2 » by **isekii** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 8:22 pm

No clue what this thread is suppose to be but it's confusing.

"Why? What is this all about? VC4pres was always an idiot that agravates me, but this is drawing the line. I hate this guy." But this is something I was thinking about last night and this morning.

I think what you wrote above applies here 100%

Pugsley_2491 · Post #3 » by **Pugsley_2491** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 9:04 pm

cool story hansel

vincecarter4pres · Post #4 » by **vincecarter4pres** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 9:07 pm

Pugsley_2491 wrote:cool story hansel

Huh?

monk302 · Post #5 » by **monk302** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 11:13 pm

SAY NO TO DRUGS!!!

Serpo · Post #6 » by **Serpo** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 11:15 pm

No just NO .

NetsForce · Post #7 » by **NetsForce** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 12:00 am

Can I get fries with that?

Baddy Chuck · Post #8 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 3:54 am

NetsForce wrote:Can I get fries with that?

I think you misunderstood, these teams are getting raped, not a shake.

BigWil17 · Post #9 » by **BigWil17** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 1:14 am

Pugsley_2491 wrote:cool story hansel

LOL, He definitely got the good tea.

Post #10 » by **jerseyjac** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:51 am

vincecarter4pres · Post #11 » by **vincecarter4pres** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 6:56 pm

I hate the Knicks as much as the next fan, and I know this makes them a very strong team on paper, but I don't see what is so lopsided except the fact we should either keep Marcus or the Dallas 1st in hindsight.
This would only be if Rod was looking to blow it up and if someone we really wanted was at the Knicks pick or we could trade up even higher with their pick.
We get cap relief and a higher pick.
Cleveland gives up an expiring and a 1st for a much better SG(well I guess the jury could be out on that one), Indianna gets cap relief and Curry(yeah I know, I think he sucks too, but he is still a big 7 footer with a good low post game), and the Memphis deal is pretty fair considering Nate Robinson is a good player and Memphis has a plethora of good young PG's.
Whats so crazy, except the fact none of this will ever happen, although don't sleep on Donnie.

vincecarter4pres · Post #12 » by **vincecarter4pres** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 6:57 pm

Oh yeah, the Seattle deal sucks for Seattle.
That one was pretty bad.