Who Was the Last "Good Defending Number 1 Pick"?

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Who Was the Last "Good Defending Number 1 Pick"? 

Post#1 » by Boobs » Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:09 am

I'm looking through the number one picks and I think to myself, "How come none of these guys are good defenders?" (I'm excluding Greg Oden from this for now).

For the last 5 years, all the number one picks seem to be either horrible defenders or bad defenders.

2006- Andrea Bargnani
2005- Andrew Bogut
2004- Dwight Howard
2003- LeBron James
2002- Yao Ming

So the next guy is atleast an above average defender, however, not an above average player:

2001- Kwame Brown

And even after that, these guys are good defenders too:

2000- Kenyon Martin
1999- Elton Brand

And looking at this year, Michael Beasley is not a great, or even good defender either.

So is just bad timing or do teams look for offensive players more so then defensive players? I guess I could understand, there aren't many defensive players that you would want to build your team around, but so many of these teams did not need a franchise player.

So what's your take on this?

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Post#2 » by dockingsched » Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:12 am

howard/james/ming are horrible/bad defenders?
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Re: Who Was the Last "Good Defending Number 1 Pick" 

Post#3 » by 76ciology » Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:12 am

Kingz wrote:I'm looking through the number one picks and I think to myself, "How come none of these guys are good defenders?" (I'm excluding Greg Oden from this for now).

For the last 5 years, all the number one picks seem to be either horrible defenders or bad defenders.

2006- Andrea Bargnani
2005- Andrew Bogut
2004- Dwight Howard
2003- LeBron James
2002- Yao Ming



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Post#4 » by Schad » Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:12 am

Andrew Bogut is an above-average defender this season. To say nothing of Dwight Howard, who is top-5 in blocks and the league's leading defensive rebounder...
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Post#5 » by CBS7 » Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:13 am

Dwight Howard is neither terrible nor bad. He's decent at worst with potential to be a whole lot more.

LeBron is at least up to average this year.

Yao has anchored one of the NBA's best defenses for the past few years.
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Post#6 » by 5DOM » Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:15 am

this thread has tons of potential to be a bargnani bashing thread :)
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Post#7 » by GYBE » Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:17 am

Bargnani and Beasley are indeed bad defenders. Unfortunately you're wrong on pretty much every other point.
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Post#8 » by NO-KG-AI » Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:18 am

Like said, Howard, James, and Ming are all pretty damn good defenders, Bogut is decent.... they all 4 are better than Kwame brown in terms of the total defensive package.
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Post#9 » by BrooklynBulls » Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:18 am

OH MY GOD.
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Post#10 » by miller31time » Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:19 am

Bogut is slightly above-average.
Howard is above-average.
James is above-average.
Yao is damn good.

And though Bargnani isn't a good defender, he isn't noticeably bad, either.
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Post#11 » by etopn23 » Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:33 am

HOW do you have Yao listed as a bad defender.
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Post#12 » by Storm Surge » Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:38 am

obviously he averaged all of the players defense into one to form his conclusion.

In which case Bargnani brings the entire group down to below average.
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Post#13 » by JD225 » Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:38 am

Can this thread be locked? Every time I see Bargnani's name mentioned next to these number one picks I kind of cringe.
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Post#14 » by ilikecb4 » Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:02 am

Dont know if we're watching the same league or wat

Lebron is a great defender and so is D12
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Post#15 » by sweet_jesus » Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:10 am

Well I think he's expecting some response that pertains to a team that drafted a player #1 overall based on his defense.

Okafor had a chance but ORL rightly took Howard over him. (Edit: Chandler was a #2 pick too wasn't he?)


Ideally you want a #1 pick to become the complete package.


You can be a great defender on a bad team and it wont make a difference. Defense is a team goal while we've seen a single Offensive player can take over a game. Thats why the James, Mings, Howards are taken.

But none of those guys (except Bargnani) would I consider bad defenders at this point in their developement
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Post#16 » by duppyy » Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:15 am

Bargs only plays bad help D...his man to man is alright.
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Post#17 » by Ballings7 » Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:43 am

Dwight Howard.

And of course Greg Oden will be (probably at least :) ).
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Post#18 » by MagicNolesFSU » Mon Apr 14, 2008 5:06 am

ROFL. Dwight is a great defender. Lebron is a good if not great defender (especially this year). Yao is a good defender, and bogut isn't bad. (improved alot this year).

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Post#19 » by Cammo101 » Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:38 am

Dwight Howard is a 1st or 2nd team all NBA defender this year. Thus, this thread is dumb.
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Post#20 » by some_rand » Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:48 am

as much as i hate bargnani, if you watch him is man d isnt THAT bad

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