Utah Jazz in awkward situation

[KDRE]

Ok, check this Rockets scenario from a media member that posts on Cf

This is the real deal

Just got off the phone with the League Office....ignore all the tie-breaking crap written because half of it is wrong. Just know that if the Rockets beat the Clippers tomorrow there is a 75% chance they are hosting a 1st round series. Don't ask why just accept these scenarios.

Rockets win, San Antonio wins, Phoenix wins...Rockets vs Utah (Hou homecourt)

Rockets win, Utah wins, Phoenix wins...Rockets vs Suns (Hou homecourt)

Rockets win, Phoenix loses, San Antonio wins..Rockets vs Utah (Hou homecourt)



The only scenario involving a Rockets win that does not give Houston home court, is if Phoenix loses at home to Portland and San Antonio loses to Utah. (Then Rockets vs San Antonio with Spurs homecourt)

[Sloanfeld]

***I have been shown some new information and my OP may be incorrect***

Okay, so here is a new look at what may actually be the case.

If the Jazz win on Wednesday, they will own the outright tie breaker lead over all of the other 3 teams automatically placing them in the 3 seed.

3. Utah Jazz

From there, since there is no outright winner with the season series match ups between Phoenix, Houston and San Antonio, which ever team had the best winning % against the opposing two teams during the regular season would win the tie breaker.

In that case, Phoenix would win the tie breaker as they went 5-3 to the Rockets 4-4 and the Spurs 3-5.

That places the Phoenix Suns in the 4 seed.

4. Phoenix Suns

Since the three way tie has been broken, the NBA will then look at the Houston vs. San Antonio season series match up in which it was tied 2-2. From there, since they play in the same division whomever has the greater winning percentage in said division wins that tie breaker.

That would then go to the San Antonio Spurs who have gone 10-6 in their division, to the Rockets 8-8. In which case the Spurs would be placed as the 5 seed.

5. San Antonio Spurs

Then since there is only one team remaining, the Houston Rockets move into the 6 seed and play the Jazz in the first round in Utah.

6. Houston Rockets

What a mess.

Who made this up? If it goes by best record of the teams, then Houston would be 5 and SA would be 6. And if 4 teams have 27 losses then all 4 are in the tiebreaker, even though we come out on top, there would be a possibility that we could be the 4 seed in a 4 way tiebreaker (hypothetically, but it's mathematically impossible if all teams are tied).

[CB4MiamiHeat]

that would be a great scenario for the Jazz...playing Houston with HC and getting New Orleans in the 2nd round. WCF again.

[JordansBulls]

So here it is for the Jazz assuming that Houston beats the Clippers on Wednesday and the Suns beat the Blazers.

If the Jazz win @ San Antonio they get home court in the first round, but have to play San Antonio.

If they lose they play @ Houston in the first round.

The Jazz are the most dominant home team in the league, but if they win @ San Antonio then all of a sudden they have to win 2 more in a row against San Antonio just to hold serve on home court, meaning essentially they have to win three games in a row against San Antonio which is a huge task.

So what would you do? Beat San Antonio and trust your home floor? Lose to San Antonio and trust yourself winning a game in Houston?

***Edit, this information be incorrect, see bolded statement on page 3***

Well I think Utah would beat Houston, however if I am Utah I would want to play San Antonio in Round 1 as a confidence booster for the rest of the postseason.
Also Utah is a good team and with the homecourt they should be able to beat the Spurs. In fact any team with the homecourt should beat the other team. It doesn't always happen that way but you are the favorite for a reason. Also beating the Spurs is probably easier early on then later on. I would think the Jazz would want some payback as well.
I feel this year the Spurs are most vulnerable in the 1st round just like Miami was most vulnerable in the 1st round last year.

[JES12]

Ok, check this Rockets scenario from a media member that posts on Cf

This is the real deal

Just got off the phone with the League Office....ignore all the tie-breaking crap written because half of it is wrong. Just know that if the Rockets beat the Clippers tomorrow there is a 75% chance they are hosting a 1st round series. Don't ask why just accept these scenarios.

Thats what the "tie-breaking crap written" shows as well. What are you talking about?

[KB20]

As a Lakers fan I want it to be Utah/Houston.

[NOODLESTYLE]

For the Lakers fans, I too also want Houston/Jazz to be 4th/5th seeds:
http://blogs.sltrib.com/jazz/

So it looks like this is the scenario we want:

JAZZ LOSE

Keep in mind the Jazz are guaranteed no worse than a No. 4 seed as the Northwest Division champion

Houston wins, Phoenix wins

Records: San Antonio 56-26, Jazz 54-28, Houston 55-27, Phoenix 55-27

Tiebreakers: The Spurs are the third seed (also could be New Orleans), the Jazz are fourth and the Rockets fifth thanks to their conference record over the Suns.

Jazz would play: Houston without home-court advantage

I kept thinking Jazz would drop to 6th if they lossed, but then this article reminded me that Jazz still get 4th because of winning their division. So in essence, as long as the JAZZ lose and PHX/HOUSTON wins their games then this what the playoffs in the West will look like:

1) Lakers vs Nuggets (8)
2) Hornets vs Mavs (7)
3) Spurs vs Suns (6)
4) Utah vs Houston (5) but I think Houston gets homecourt?


Correct me if I'm wrong please...

[JStockLivesOn]

Yeah, the Lakers are rightfully salivating for:

4 Utah
5 Houston

They're the only team that makes me want to curl up into the fetal position.

[ilikecb4]

I'd love to see Utah face San Antonio in the first round..

tire each other out..

and then let Suns, Lakers beat them up

[Duiz]

lol.

[rewill17]

all the possible cominations/outcomes that are possible:

for your reference

If Jazz win, Hornets win both or split, Houston beats Clippers, Phoenix beats Portland, = Utah 3rd, facing SA
If Jazz win, Hornets win both or split, Hosuton beats Clippers, Phoenix loses to Portaldn = Utah 3rd, facing PHX
If Jazz win, Hornets win both or split, Houston loses to Clippers, Phoenixs beats Portland = Utah 3rd, facing Hou
If Jazzs win, Hornets win both or split, Houston loses to Clippers, Phoenix loses to Portland = Utah 3rd, facing PHX
If Jazz win, Hornets lose both games, Houston beats Clippers, Phoenix beats Portland = Utah 2nd, facing Dal
If Jazz win, Hornets lose both games, Houston beats Clipeprs, Phoenix loses Portland = Utah 2nd, facing Dal
If Jazz win, Hornets lose both games, Hosuton loses Clippers, Phoenix beats Portland = Utah 2nd, facing Dal
If Jazz win, Hornets lose both games, Houston loses Clippers. Phoenix loses Portland = Utah 2nd, facing Dal
If Jazz lose, Hornets win both games or splits, Houston beats Clippers, Phoenix beats Portland = Utah 4th - facing Hou
If Jazz lose, Hornets win both games or splits, Houston beats Clippers, Phoenix loses Portland = Utah 4th - facing Hou
If Jazz lose, Hornets win both games or splits, Houston loses Clippers, Phoenix beats Portland = Utah 4th - facing PHX
If Jazz lose, Hornets win both games or splits, Houston loses Clippers, Phoenix loses Portland = Utah 4th - facing Hou
If Jazz lose, Hornets lose both games, Houston wins Clippers, Phoenix wins Portland = Utah 4th, facing Hou
If Jazz lose, Hornets lose both games, Houston wins Clippers, Phoenix loses Portland = Utah 4th, facing Hou
If Jazz lose, Hornets lose both games, Houston loses Clippers, Phoenix wins Portland = Utah 4th, facing Hou
If Jazz lose, Hornets lose both games, Houston loses Clippers, Phoenix loses Portland = Utah 4ht, facing Hou

half of my chart have been burnt already by the Hornets win. As a result, Jazz has been eliminated from the 2nd seed sweepstakes.

[rewill17]

If Jazz win, 50% of facing Phoenix, 25% facing Houston and 25% facing SA.

If Jazz lose, 99.9% of facing Houston and 0.01% of facing Miami.

[Storm Surge]

this is CRAZY

[PopAGat]

but you can say the exact same thing about the spurs

would they rather face the jazz or the suns?

they can easily tank the utah game and gave away home court to play jazz instead of the suns.

which will then leave suns to play the rockets with rockets having the home court.

this makes the playoff picture very interesting as teams try to find the most favorable match-up against each other.

of course, every team would like to play the rockets because of them thinking it's an easy to 2nd round.

LMAO AT YOUR SIG !

[TMACFORMVP]

The Spurs are being real underrated.

Whenever you have Duncan (who's another player in the playoffs), Ginobili, Parker, Poppovich and their defense you WILL be a contender. Not to mention they've proven they can win on the road and just got Barry back to help some of their spacing issues they've been having.

[Duiz]

The Spurs are being real underrated.

Whenever you have Duncan (who's another player in the playoffs), Ginobili, Parker, Poppovich and their defense you WILL be a contender. Not to mention they've proven they can win on the road and just got Barry back to help some of their spacing issues they've been having.

Jazz offense is too much too handler, and Sans Ginobli, San Antonio can't win. I don't care if it is even the road.

[Scoob Seriously]

I think he was talking about the playoffs Duiz, not tomorrow night.

[Duiz]

I think he was talking about the playoffs Duiz, not tomorrow night.

I wasn't reading from the page before. However, we don't know how long Ginobli will be out. If the Jazz win 5 in a row this year. 2 earlier, tomorrow's, and the first two in the playoffs, I think Utah should have the mental barrier deleted.

[KyleCleric]

When it comes to playing San Antonio, you attempt delay playing them as long as possible and pray that someone else knocks them out. IMO, Tim Duncan is the most dangerous player in the NBA. You avoid playing him as long as possible hoping that you never have to face them. AND if your choice is losing home court advantage to play the Rockets instead of having it against the Spurs, you take the Rockets every time.

[Texas Longhorns]

Ok, check this Rockets scenario from a media member that posts on Cf

This is the real deal

Just got off the phone with the League Office....ignore all the tie-breaking crap written because half of it is wrong. Just know that if the Rockets beat the Clippers tomorrow there is a 75% chance they are hosting a 1st round series. Don't ask why just accept these scenarios.

Rockets win, San Antonio wins, Phoenix wins...Rockets vs Utah (Hou homecourt)

Rockets win, Utah wins, Phoenix wins...Rockets vs Suns (Hou homecourt)

Rockets win, Phoenix loses, San Antonio wins..Rockets vs Utah (Hou homecourt)



The only scenario involving a Rockets win that does not give Houston home court, is if Phoenix loses at home to Portland and San Antonio loses to Utah. (Then Rockets vs San Antonio with Spurs homecourt)

Is this the real deal?