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Post#1 » by Mamba8 » Wed Apr 16, 2008 6:47 am

Bynum or Howard?

Obviously Howard is a Beast right now, even though most of his points are dunks he still is strong smart. Gets a double double almost every night and is gunna be big in the nba.

Up until Bnyum was injured he was having a breakout year, he still needs to bulk up a lot but i see him becoming an all star as soon as next year if he keeps it up.

But who do you think overall will be the better player by the end of there careers?
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Post#2 » by milesfides » Wed Apr 16, 2008 6:55 am

Bynum, for a variety of reasons. He has a softer touch around the basket, while Dwight is either power move or brick city. Bynum can also hit free throws, especially valuable late in games.

Bynum has a similar rebounding rate is already a better shotblocker.

Bynum doesn't turn the ball over as much, and is a better passer.

I see Bynum as a more skilled big man, who relies more on his extraordinary length and instinctive good timing rather than athleticism.

And while Dwight's athleticism is special, Bynum's skill set promises to have more impact on the game, and probably helps in terms of longevity as well.

That being said, Dwight hasn't missed a game in his career, and it's Bynum who's missed some games with injuries.

In theory, to me, Bynum. But you never know.
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Post#3 » by El Hardee » Wed Apr 16, 2008 2:45 pm

That is a tough one, Bynum is far more skilled, but Howard is far more athletic. If Howard gets the proper training and develops some low post go to moves you have got to say Howard. If DH continues to JUST live off his athletism, with the way Bynum is developing I go with Bynum. Either way they both will be the premier centers for years to come. Sorry Oden.
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Post#4 » by Dexmor » Wed Apr 16, 2008 3:32 pm

Howard. What if Howard develops those moves? Bynum is more finasse and could be better yes but come on would you guys turn down a Howard offer?
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Post#5 » by bobobolas1 » Wed Apr 16, 2008 3:42 pm

Dexmor wrote:Howard. What if Howard develops those moves? Bynum is more finasse and could be better yes but come on would you guys turn down a Howard offer?


The question could be "who is going to stop his development before?" They are going to be getting better year by year, thats why we can say howard is better than bynum now, more years.

One thing we have to say about dwight is that he hasnt miss a game yet, is made like karl malone or superman. I hope that knee heals forever and ever.
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Post#6 » by pooteeweet » Wed Apr 16, 2008 5:41 pm

Howard, I think. He will almost assuredly always have better numbers, anyway. As miles said, Bynum is already a better shot-blocker, and for the Lakers purposes a good defensive center is more important than having the best offensive one or best rebounding one. Just the fact that it's debatable shows how far Bynum has come, and how far we all expect him to go. I really hope this injury is an aberration and that he has no long-term effects of it, and he isn't injury-prone in the future.
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Post#7 » by CITYOFANGELSX3 » Wed Apr 16, 2008 10:38 pm

Kareem's teachings will be the difference.
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Post#8 » by Bay_Areas_Finest » Wed Apr 16, 2008 10:56 pm

The Lakers would trade Bynum for Howard in a hot second.
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Post#9 » by DEEP3CL » Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:12 pm

Howard's in his 3rd season and will never improve his freethrow shooting. Therefore Bynum has a slight edge,I'd trust Bynum at the line before I will Howard. I promise you his bad freethrow shooting will cost the Magic a playoff game or two................Book it.

And to Bay_Areas_Finest the Warriors NEED Howard a lot worst then the Lakers do.
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Post#10 » by Erik Eleven » Thu Apr 17, 2008 12:36 am

Bay_Areas_Finest wrote:The Lakers would trade Bynum for Howard in a hot second.


I'm not so sure about that. Since we're speculating here, would you say the same thing if you knew that Bynum will soon start to pull out the Sky-Hook at a high clip? The people who watch him every day in practice say that there is no limit to how good he can be, if he has a relatively healthy career.

Bynum is an extremely smart, talented and fundamentally sound player, with an innate ability to catch and shoot with great touch. Kareem is building him from the ground up, and he's creating a monster.

Howard already is a monster, but that's in large to be attributed to his freakish athleticism. Much like Howard, Bynum's power will come as his body matures. But unlike Howard, Bynum also has a plethora of skill, like miles mentioned.

It'll be a close race, and it's still a bit early to say because Bynum is still growing physically and learning the basics. Hopefully, we'll be able to watch the two go at it one-on-one at full strength for the next decade or more.
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Post#11 » by djericho » Thu Apr 17, 2008 1:21 am

slight edge to Bynum only because he's under Kareem's tutilage...

If Howard got the same instruction as Bynum he would be way up there IMO... he already cleans glass... to go along w/ his presence in the middle post moves and perhaps a hook?
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Post#12 » by tayzer » Thu Apr 17, 2008 1:51 am

Howard now, but I pick Bynum in 2 years.
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Post#13 » by O.C Brandon » Fri Apr 18, 2008 12:13 am

gotta love a the homerism.

Howard already an NBA allstar starting center and hasn't developed an offensive game yet.

Bynum missed 47 games and he gets the nod.
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Post#14 » by Gerald3Wallace » Fri Apr 18, 2008 3:28 am

agreed brandon

ill state my opinion when bynum comes back 100% and not lose a step
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Post#15 » by ClubLakers KB8 » Sun Apr 20, 2008 6:22 pm

I'm going with Bynum. He's more of a fundamental player while Howard, for the most part, relies SOLELY on his athletic ability. With Bynum, I seriously see a Duncan-esque type, just playing the center position. Not saying their careers will be anything like each other, but in terms of an analogy of using fundamentals instead of raw power to be effective, I think it makes sense.

- Bynum is every bit the rebounder D-12 is. Dwight plays more minutes and doesn't have Lamar snatching 10 a game.
- Bynum is a better shot blocker.
- Bynum has MUCH better touch around the rim.
- Bynum is a better FT shooter.
- Bynum, IMO, is the better defender.
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Post#16 » by Verbal » Mon Apr 21, 2008 6:47 am

I'd go w/ D12, if I could choose.

Then have the Captain coach him from there.

But I support Bynum, as long as he's a productive Laker.

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