Who is this Ramon Sessions kid?

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Post#141 » by 93 Phillies » Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:38 pm

mbucks22 wrote:What's with the Nets fans hating on the kid? Jealous they had to give up Kidd for a not so good Harris while the Bucks got this future star from the draft? Sure seems that way.


lmao are you serious?
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Post#142 » by RideEmCowboy24 » Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:24 pm

.....sooooo has anyone besides bucks fans actually watched him play? do that before you knock him so hard, he may not ever even be a starter but he was a damn good steal in the draft

and p.s. devin harris isn't really that good...kidd>>harris....and most of us here in wisconsin know a lot about him......i just hope you're laughing at the ramon being a star part....because that is actually funny
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Post#143 » by MrCheerios » Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:58 pm

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Based on the comments from new GM John Hammond, Mo's game does not appear to fit with the type of PG play he wants. And Hammond has said it's his belief your team's success begins with the PG position. That Hammond has not uttered a single word of praise with regard to Mo so far (he has praised Bogut and Yi as well as Redd, for example) speaks volumes in my opinion about Mo's future with the team.

Well good luck getting rid of him, then. It won't be easy. I'm a rockets fan, we've been trying to get rid of Alston for years now. Our GM's done everything possible and nothing's worked so far. Alston actually plays defense and only makes 4.5 mil/yr, yet we're offered nothing but expirings.

If Mo has the kind of holes you say he does, no team will take on his very large salary. My guess it that you're stuck with him too.
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Post#144 » by europa » Tue Apr 15, 2008 11:59 pm

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Well good luck getting rid of him, then. It won't be easy. I'm a rockets fan, we've been trying to get rid of Alston for years now. Our GM's done everything possible and nothing's worked so far. Alston actually plays defense and only makes 4.5 mil/yr, yet we're offered nothing but expirings.

If Mo has the kind of holes you say he does, no team will take on his very large salary. My guess it that you're stuck with him too.


I hope not but I agree it won't be easy to trade him. He has a terrible contract and he needs a precise fit if he's going to be a starter. There are questions around the league about whether Mo can be a good starting PG on a contending team. And at nearly $9M a year for the next five years, you sure as hell better believe in Mo as a starting PG if you want him. Otherwise, his contract becomes a problem - just like it's a problem for the Bucks right now.

The Bucks need a smart PG who can run the offense and get everyone involved. That's not Mo's game and it never has been his game. It's my hope the new GM will be able to find some trade that makes sense for the Bucks in terms of dealing Mo. Even if it's not a trade that appears to bring back equal "talent," if it brings back a player who will help the team win in stronger fashion that will be a huge step in the right direction.
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Post#145 » by Serge28 » Thu Apr 17, 2008 1:05 am

Ramon in the first half in Minnesota tonight:

13 points on 6-10 shooting, 2 rebounds, 7 assists, 2 steals, 0 fouls, and 0 turnovers. Oh, and a buzzer-beating triple from halfcourt at the halftime buzzer.
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Post#146 » by Buck You » Thu Apr 17, 2008 1:10 am

Sessions>Nets Organization.

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Post#147 » by NetsForce » Thu Apr 17, 2008 1:16 am

Sessions would be the 4th best point guard on the Nets.
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Post#148 » by Buck You » Thu Apr 17, 2008 1:17 am

NetsForce wrote:Sessions would be the 4th best point guard on the Nets.


We will see next year my friend.
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Post#149 » by treefi » Thu Apr 17, 2008 1:19 am

It takes many NBA fans years to identify new talent(NetsForce), unless of course they read articles about them being really good in High School. That kind of hype is what counts when evaluating talent and potential, obviously..

Right now they think Ramon Sessions simply CANNOT be a quality NBA point guard because he was a 2nd round pick. I mean, he played for Nevada.. and wasn't even their most hyped player!!
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Post#150 » by AbdicatedReign » Thu Apr 17, 2008 1:48 am

The kid had 24 assists in an NBA game. That's impressive. If someone tries to deny that, they're deluded.

Now, can you extrapolate how good of a player he is? No. But you can give him his due. The people coming offering qualifiers that his team hasn't won and it was two lottery teams mailing it in, that's unnecessary. No need to diminish what he did. There have been plenty of games between bad teams playing for nothing (a lot of them involving the Bucks) and no one's ever done this as a 2nd rounder.
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Post#151 » by DanoMac » Thu Apr 17, 2008 2:17 am

NetsForce wrote:Sessions would be the 4th best point guard on the Nets.


I've ignored every one of your comments in this thread, but if you seriously wanna say that Darrell Armstrong is better than Ramon Sessions, then I think it's safe to say that the New Jersey Mental Institution is missing one of it's finer patients.
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Post#152 » by NetsForce » Thu Apr 17, 2008 2:22 am

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I've ignored every one of your comments in this thread, but if you seriously wanna say that Darrell Armstrong is better than Ramon Sessions, then I think it's safe to say that the New Jersey Mental Institution is missing one of it's finer patients.


Between Sessions and Armstrong if I had to choose one to start I'd take Sessions since Armstrong can't handle big minutes anymore, but if I was bringing one off the bench I'd take Armstrong over Sessions. Sessions can't really shoot so while his playmaking would be nice off the bench he'd be more of a liability than anything else; at least with Armstrong you still get good defense.

I have lightened my stance on Sessions a bit after tonight though. His defense is still atrocious but if he improves his shooting touch a solid career as a backup as not out of the realm of possibilities.

Like I've been maintaining though all he did this year was prove that he deserves a chance, it will be next year when we see what kind of player he really is.
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Post#153 » by Serge28 » Thu Apr 17, 2008 2:34 am

I'm sorry, are we talking about the same almost 40-year-old Darell Armstrong who's shooting 36% from the field on the year to go along with his blistering marks of 33.3% from behind the arc, and 66.7% from the charity stripe? Just how delusional can one be?
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Post#154 » by Serpo » Thu Apr 17, 2008 2:34 am

Have you seen Darrell play this year ? Obviosly not . Don't just look at the stats .
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Post#155 » by Serge28 » Thu Apr 17, 2008 2:38 am

Riiiight, his shooting percentages are terrible, but he can shoot just because two Nets homers say so. :roll:
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Post#156 » by Serpo » Thu Apr 17, 2008 2:41 am

If you need a guy for 10-15 minutes off the bench Darrell Armstrong is a great option . He still plays very good defense and takes every chance to try to pick up a charge .

There's not much left of this offensive game but he's allways been a nice spark off the bench . I can't remember one game where i can say he had a bad game . His energy off the bench was key in some of the Nets wins when it still mattered for them.

But since you haven't seen him play and just judge by stats you don't see that and just hate on poor old Darrell .

I give Sessions credit for his nice stats but he still has to show up next year when MIL has something to play for again.
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Post#157 » by skones » Thu Apr 17, 2008 2:49 am

I don't know how anyone can say that Sessions would be the 4th best point guard on the Nets with a straight face. Marcus Williams hasn't even sniffed performances like Sessions as had in the last week or so.
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Post#158 » by skones » Thu Apr 17, 2008 2:53 am

Check that.

Over the last month, Sessions has averaged:
11.5 points 4.9 rebounds 11.3 assists 1.5 steals and 3.2 TO's
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Post#159 » by Serpo » Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:02 am

How much of that month was still meaningful for the Bucks ?
All i'm saying i'm not convinced till he shows up again next season .

I don't care about stats i care about team success and he hasn't helped his team in that regard ( no matter if the Bucks suck or not )
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Post#160 » by CBS7 » Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:19 am

I will reserve judgment on him until next season, but yes, he has put up some insane statlines and has potential to be a good point guard.

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