Cammo's Mock Draft (4/17)

Cammo101 · Post #1 » by **Cammo101** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 3:06 am

1. Miami - Derrick Rose (6

Malinhion · Post #2 » by **Malinhion** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 5:12 am

It's shaping up well. I think Love is climbing on a lot of boards, though, and you show no reflection of that.

A lot of folks have him projected out as a solid bigman who could start on most teams as a roleplayer. But considering his numbers and his age, its possible that he has a little room to grow. I think his potential to be more than a roleplayer should boost his stock in light of the fact that his worst-case scenario is a rotation guy. How many guys can you normally say that about who get drafted in the teens?

EDIT: ESPN just put up a stat. Players to come out with 600 points, 400 rebounds, and a final 4 trip. Gooden went #4, Okafor went #2. Both these guys were juniors.

Cammo101 · Post #3 » by **Cammo101** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 6:08 am

Malinhion wrote:It's shaping up well. I think Love is climbing on a lot of boards, though, and you show no reflection of that.

A lot of folks have him projected out as a solid bigman who could start on most teams as a roleplayer. But considering his numbers and his age, its possible that he has a little room to grow. I think his potential to be more than a roleplayer should boost his stock in light of the fact that his worst-case scenario is a rotation guy. How many guys can you normally say that about who get drafted in the teens?

EDIT: ESPN just put up a stat. Players to come out with 600 points, 400 rebounds, and a final 4 trip. Gooden went #4, Okafor went #2. Both these guys were juniors.

Both those guys have underachieved in the NBA and both are vastly more athletic than Love. I like Love and had him at #8 in the last mock. He has a chance to climb into the top 10 before all is said and done, but his athleticism is a concern. I agree he will be a solid rotation guy, but his upside is a question mark.

NBAMAN2006 · Post #4 » by **NBAMAN2006** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 6:15 am

I guarantee Richard Roby gets drafted.

Malinhion · Post #5 » by **Malinhion** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 7:02 am

Cammo101 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Both those guys have underachieved in the NBA and both are vastly more athletic than Love. I like Love and had him at #8 in the last mock. He has a chance to climb into the top 10 before all is said and done, but his athleticism is a concern. I agree he will be a solid rotation guy, but his upside is a question mark.

I agree he has questions. Especially until we can get legit measurements in the NBA combine. Ideally as a GM I would like to take him in the early to mid-teens. He'd do best paired with a large, athletic, defensive presence. Though he would probably do well in a 3-man rotation with Kwame Brown/Rasheed Wallace and Antawn Jamison/KMart, or comparable player types. I just don't see him falling to that point, though. He had high school hype, and has great numbers for a freshman on a final four team. He's very low risk. No way he falls out of the top 10. I see him around 6-8, depending on how the lottery pans out.

DanTown8587 · Post #6 » by **DanTown8587** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 10:27 am

I would have to say that the teams picking 8-10 (Char, Chi, NJ) none of those teams are going to take a role player a PF. Love is at best 6'9 and Charlotte wants to see what May can give, Love would be the third PF on Chicago and they don't need more steady players and NJ has spent two first round picks the past two years on PF, doubt Love makes it three in a row for them.

Serpo · Post #7 » by **Serpo** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 12:00 pm

Deandre Jordan = No go with the Nets . We picked 2 Bigs without much of an offensive Game 2 years in a row , why pick a 3rd ?

MYoung23 · Post #8 » by **MYoung23** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 12:03 pm

Not going to let the Budinger thing go I see

Post #9 » by **5DOM** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 12:18 pm

thabeets not gonna drop that much if he declares this year (which seems unlikely from what i heard in the raptors board)

miamiballer · Post #10 » by **miamiballer** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 1:11 pm

i still think miami takes beasley if they get the # 1 pick..rose is nice but we already have wade as our playmaker

WillC · Post #11 » by **WillC** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 1:12 pm

Brumbaugh plays for Hillsborough Community College.

Post #12 » by **BigSlam** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 2:03 pm

Cammo101 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Both those guys have underachieved in the NBA and both are vastly more athletic than Love.

Okafor, the 2004-05 RoY, career double double, defensive anchor and progressive offensive game has under achieved? Sure, he might not be used right, but I don't think he has under achieved.

But anyhoo.

If the draft did play out like this I would hope the Bobcats and Blazers would strike a deal that would send Westbrook to them and Augustin, Frye and someone like Hardin to the Bobcats.

Post #13 » by **ReasonablySober** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 2:27 pm

Gallinari's not going to be a Buck with Hammond in charge of the draft. Safe money is on Westbrook.

Liqourish · Post #14 » by **Liqourish** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 6:14 pm

Pistons will not draft at gaurd at #29. I don't know how many times this needs to be said. Dumars had been seen around NCAA games scouting big guys. Centers 1st, Small Forwards 2nd. No other positions need apply.

ponder276 · Post #15 » by **ponder276** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 7:59 pm

Liqourish wrote:Pistons will not draft at gaurd at #29. I don't know how many times this needs to be said. Dumars had been seen around NCAA games scouting big guys. Centers 1st, Small Forwards 2nd. No other positions need apply.

Cammo has Bill Walker listed as a SG, but the guy is extremely powerfull, plays a very aggressive, physical game, and isn't particularly perimiter oriented - to me he is absolutely a SF, not a SG, even if he is only 6'6" (which is still OK size for a SF). Plus the Pistons have stocked the cupboard nicely with lots of solid rookies, so they can afford to take a chance on an injury prone player like Bill Walker. If he didn't have the injury risk, the guy is easily a lottery pick imo.

Cammo101 · Post #16 » by **Cammo101** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 8:23 pm

ponder276 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Cammo has Bill Walker listed as a SG, but the guy is extremely powerfull, plays a very aggressive, physical game, and isn't particularly perimiter oriented - to me he is absolutely a SF, not a SG, even if he is only 6'6" (which is still OK size for a SF). Plus the Pistons have stocked the cupboard nicely with lots of solid rookies, so they can afford to take a chance on an injury prone player like Bill Walker. If he didn't have the injury risk, the guy is easily a lottery pick imo.

Agreed. He would have no problem playing SF for the Pistons.

riehldeal · Post #17 » by **riehldeal** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 8:38 pm

Brook Lopez is all Center....not seein him playin the 4 spot

B Calrissian · Post #18 » by **B Calrissian** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:08 pm

I love it for the Wolves. Besides getting lucky and landing a top 2 pick this is about as good as it could get for them.

Badd_Intentions · Post #19 » by **Badd_Intentions** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 2:34 pm

I dont think anyone envisioned Okafor avg 20 ppg in the NBA. I think a career 14 ppg/11 rpg/2 bpg is pretty good and what I expected out of him coming out of UConn.

But as for the Bobcats and May, I'm not so sure if they are going to depend on him in any way shape or form. The guy has been injured EVERY single year and has a questionable work ethic. If the opportunity came to draft Love I'm sure they would think long and hard on it. Considering when May is in the game I love what he can do on offense, defense is shakey but usually thats the last thing to come for young players and he's been on the court so little he hasn't gotten the chance to really work on it.

If we can get the similar offensive production from Love, coupled with his rebounding I'd say that's a pretty good draft choice 8th overall. We could slide love in at PF and have Okafor play C.

Haven't seen this JaVale McGee play not once, but from reading his profile on draftexpress, doesn't seem like the type of player we normally draft. He's an upside guy where we normally would go with production guys that can help out right away(Not factoring in Wright whom was drafted with then intention to be traded). Also his 4 to 1 Turnover to assists scares me. Even in the Jordan era I don't feel this would be a pick that would be made.

LPKingsFan · Post #20 » by **LPKingsFan** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 9:54 pm

riehldeal wrote:Brook Lopez is all Center....not seein him playin the 4 spot

How do you figure? He played the 4 pretty well in college, and could largely keep up with smaller players. Personally, I don't get why the TWolves wouldn't get him to pair with Jefferson, as they already have Foye and McCants in the backcourt.

As for the Kings pick, if Augustin was available at #12 I'd imagine they'd take him over Arthur.