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Post#1 » by Durbanfish4 » Sun Apr 20, 2008 5:21 pm

http://blogs.jsonline.com/bucks/archive ... eason.aspx

All this info. on Redd is really getting me to the point where I absolutely despise him. What a moron...speaks of being humble and everything else, but he is one of the most selfish people on the court. Get rid of this fool! :banghead:
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Post#2 » by crkone » Sun Apr 20, 2008 5:30 pm

I think there was a different mindset in practice than there was in a game,
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Post#3 » by REDDzone » Sun Apr 20, 2008 5:32 pm

I think there was a different mindset in practice than there was in a game,
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Post#4 » by LISTEN2JAZZ » Sun Apr 20, 2008 5:36 pm

LK never stood up for himself and put Redd on the bench though. That's all on him. He seems like a nice guy, and I hope he finds happiness coaching at the college level, but he was all bark and no bite here in Milwaukee.
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Post#5 » by europa » Sun Apr 20, 2008 5:43 pm

There's no question Redd's approach was a problem. However, the comments of someone who couldn't cut it as an NBA head coach ultimately mean nothing to me. What does matter is how Hammond views all of this. My hope is he looks at the starting backcourt and realizes it can't work and both of them need to go.
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Post#6 » by ReasonablySober » Sun Apr 20, 2008 5:47 pm

europa wrote:There's no question Redd's approach was a problem. However, the comments of someone who couldn't cut it as an NBA head coach ultimately mean nothing to me. What does matter is how Hammond views all of this. My hope is he looks at the starting backcourt and realizes it can't work and both of them need to go.


I'm calling BS.

If you replaced "Mike" with "Mo" you'd be all over this one.
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Post#7 » by paulpressey25 » Sun Apr 20, 2008 5:47 pm

Do we really know though how much Kohl meddled here?

....But between knowing the situation that I was in and knowing the situation he
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Post#8 » by europa » Sun Apr 20, 2008 5:52 pm

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I'm calling BS.

If you replaced "Mike" with "Mo" you'd be all over this one.


Missed the part where I said I want Redd's approach was a problem and I'd like him to be traded, did you?

Since you apparently did, let me repeat - Redd's approach was a problem. I think it's in the team's best interests to trade him. But Krystkowiak was a terrible head coach. He isn't NBA head coaching material in my opinion. More importantly, he doesn't work for the Bucks any longer. So what he thinks about this team is meaningless to me. What does matter is what Hammond thinks. If Hammond believes Redd's approach is a problem, then he'll move to deal Redd. I have zero problems with that. I just hope he shows Mo the door as well.
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Post#9 » by showtimesam » Sun Apr 20, 2008 5:55 pm

I just hope Redd is out of here.

Lk actually had the right idea of how basketball was to be played, but he just wasn't ready for this job.

That said I love how he took a stand on Redd with his words, but his actions never came close to his talk. Redd should have been pulled in numerous 4th quarters earlier in the year but wasn't. Maybe it was Kohl, or maybe LK just didn't have the stones.
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Post#10 » by ReasonablySober » Sun Apr 20, 2008 5:55 pm

europa wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Missed the part where I said I want Redd's approach was a problem and I'd like him to be traded, did you?

Since you apparently did, let me repeat - Redd's approach was a problem. I think it's in the team's best interests to trade him. But Krystkowiak was a terrible head coach. He isn't NBA head coaching material in my opinion. More importantly, he doesn't work for the Bucks any longer. So what he thinks about this team is meaningless to me. What does matter is what Hammond thinks. If Hammond believes Redd's approach is a problem, then he'll move to deal Redd. I have zero problems with that. I just hope he shows Mo the door as well.


I caught it. But there's a distinct difference between when it's Redd that's under fire and when it's Mo.
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Post#11 » by europa » Sun Apr 20, 2008 5:56 pm

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I caught it. But there's a distinct difference between when it's Redd that's under fire and when it's Mo.


I want them both gone at this point. I'm tired of the whole deal and I want the team to start fresh with a new backcourt.
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Post#12 » by europa » Sun Apr 20, 2008 5:59 pm

I don't want to trade Redd for expirings and a weak pick in a weak draft. I don't see Hammond going that route either. I'll take back an expiring but I at least want the Bucks to get at least one quality player who will be part of the long-term plan for the team. At this point, I'll settle for that.
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Post#13 » by showtimesam » Sun Apr 20, 2008 5:59 pm

europa wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



I want them both gone at this point. I'm tired of the whole deal and I want the team to start fresh with a new backcourt.


To me that means you need to be willing to deal Redd for some role players and perhaps a draft pick if thats what it comes to. Perhaps some expiring salaries for Hammond to remold this team how he sees fit.

Because I can't imagine many all-star caliber players that we could get for Redd.
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Post#14 » by ReasonablySober » Sun Apr 20, 2008 6:05 pm

Wally, Anderson and their pick. A rotation big man that can play 24 off the bench, a huge expiring and a pick to add some depth. And it makes the Cavs worse.
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Post#15 » by Sigra » Sun Apr 20, 2008 6:14 pm

adamcz wrote:LK never stood up for himself and put Redd on the bench though. That's all on him.


Maybe. There are only 2 posible explanations to that IMO:

a) LK is big pus.y and was not brave enough to bench Max Redd

b) He wanted to do that but Herb "the meddler" Kohl didn't allow that

If it was a) than yes that's all on him. If it was b) then it was not all on him.
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Post#16 » by trwi7 » Sun Apr 20, 2008 6:16 pm

DrugBust wrote:Wally, Anderson and their pick. A rotation big man that can play 24 off the bench, a huge expiring and a pick to add some depth. And it makes the Cavs worse.


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Post#17 » by Swingman72 » Sun Apr 20, 2008 6:16 pm

Find a way to get Conley/Gay or a couple other young type players, and dump Redd and Mo. Wish it was that easy, but find a way to get rid of these guys. Detroit made the Stackhouse/Hamilton trade and at the time Stackhouse was the older vet. and the gunner, while Rip was a good young talent. Look what happened when they got rid of a selfish gunner, and brought in a more team oriented shooting guard.
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Post#18 » by pilprin » Sun Apr 20, 2008 6:20 pm

I think we need and entirely new Guard rotation.

Trade Mo and Redd and draft a guy like Gordon or Mayo.

I really like Gordon as a player - heck I wouldn't be that upset with Chris Douglas Rogers being selected. I think he has a little Taysaun Prince in him.

I am hoping we can find a new PG. I think Sessions could be a nice back up, just as Bell can be a solid guy coming off the bench.

I'd like to see a vet PG brought in to run this team. I know that will be difficult, but Memphis seems a logical target.

I would also consider approaching Houston about a McGrady deal if we don't draft a SG in teh draft.

Changes are definately needed. Hopefully that will happen under the new sherif.
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Post#19 » by showtimesam » Sun Apr 20, 2008 6:23 pm

DrugBust wrote:Wally, Anderson and their pick. A rotation big man that can play 24 off the bench, a huge expiring and a pick to add some depth. And it makes the Cavs worse.


Yup, to get rid of Redd and his ridiculous salary I think Hammond is just going to bite the bullet.

Besides just subtracting Redd and adding two veterans that can play in the rotation makes the Bucks better.

This year Redd did practically nothing to help this team win games. I think thats an example of an unpopular move that Hammond would be willing to make.

I see Wally as an efficient 12 to 15 ppg scorer, and Varejao as a very valuable third big man in the rotation. Plus the draft pick can be used to take a gamble on a wing player that could bring some defense and athleticism to this team.
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Post#20 » by showtimesam » Sun Apr 20, 2008 6:26 pm

To build off that Redd trade, I would then follow Pressey's plan and ship CV for Garcia.

Then I'd draft Westbrook to platoon with Sessions at the PG spot.

That still leaves an opening to send Mo Williams in a package for a sf or some other piece that can help.

So prior to a Mo trade we are looking at:

Sessions/Westbrook
Sczerbiak/Bell
Garcia/Simmons
Yi/Varejao
Bogut/Varejao

From there I'd hope to package Mo with Wally's expiring deal and bring in an upgrade at the wing.

At worst this team plays hard, develops for a season and lands one more high lotto pick for Hammond to rebuild with.

Plus it opens up financial flexibility to keep the young players that deserve being re upped.

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