Joe Johnson Vs. TMac

Post #1 » by **el loco** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 2:05 pm

I know this has probably been done on here before (if it has feel free to lock this up), but I think they are pretty comparable, and I was wondering who you guys would take.

I'd take Joe Johnson.

NDaATL · Post #2 » by **NDaATL** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 3:01 pm

From a pure talent standpoint, it's probably Mcgrady. But with all his back problems and injury concerns, I'd take JJ who is an iron man.

ITK9 · Post #3 » by **ITK9** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 9:22 pm

NDaATL wrote:From a pure talent standpoint, it's probably Mcgrady. But with all his back problems and injury concerns, I'd take JJ who is an iron man.

+1

Hunter · Post #4 » by **Hunter** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 10:46 pm

NDaATL wrote:From a pure talent standpoint, it's probably Mcgrady. But with all his back problems and injury concerns, I'd take JJ who is an iron man.

Yeah...I'd reluctantly take JJ just because of those injury concerns.

Post #5 » by **el loco** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:16 pm

JJ has a slightly higher PER and he is +3 in EFF

PDXKnight · Post #6 » by **PDXKnight** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 12:06 am

I'd take T-Mac and hope he stays healthy. Johnson doesn't seem like a superstar to me and T-Mac has proven himself as one of the elite players in the NBA. JJ's good, but taking T-Mac is worth the risk of potential injuries.

OhMyBosh · Post #7 » by **OhMyBosh** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 12:32 am

Tough one. JJ is more reliable but McGrady is far more talented and is capable of carrying a team by himself.

I'll take the chances with McGrady. He always manages to win games even with a joke of a roster.

Alex_De_Large · Post #8 » by **Alex_De_Large** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 1:34 am

Pachulia > Yao

Post #9 » by **el loco** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 8:39 pm

Phoenix Rockets wrote:Pachulia > Yao

I think the Rockets would take Pachulia right about now.

Post #10 » by **BrooklynBulls** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 8:48 pm

McGrady has a .487 TS%. I had NO idea it was that low. That's iverson-esque. Yet Iverson scored a hell of a whole lot more than T-mac.

I'd take Johnson, because at that efficiency, Tmac's teams are better off with him not shooting.

etopn23 · Post #11 » by **etopn23** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 8:55 pm

McGrady will get you more wins that Johnson anyday of the week. This is clearly a situation where stats don't reflect their impact on the court.

If T-Mac was on the Hawks they'd of been playoff bound year in and year out.

ponder276 · Post #12 » by **ponder276** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 9:03 pm

BrooklynBulls wrote:McGrady has a .487 TS%. I had NO idea it was that low. That's iverson-esque. Yet Iverson scored a hell of a whole lot more than T-mac.

I'd take Johnson, because at that efficiency, Tmac's teams are better off with him not shooting.

To be fair, Tmac brings a lot more than just scoring, and this was his worse TS% over a season ever. Over his career he has averaged a not great, but more respectable .522. BUT just looking at this year, Iverson actually had a TS% of .567. Tmac this season was more in the range of Antoine Walker (.484 career TS%).

Post #13 » by **BrooklynBulls** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 9:23 pm

ponder276 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

To be fair, Tmac brings a lot more than just scoring, and this was his worse TS% over a season ever. Over his career he has averaged a not great, but more respectable .522. BUT just looking at this year, Iverson actually had a TS% of .567. Tmac this season was more in the range of Antoine Walker (.484 career TS%).

Obviously, I'm not talking about Tmac's career, not am I talking about Iverson since Denver. Iverson's story has traditionally been loads of scoring at poor efficiencies, and this is on par with Iverson's least efficient season.

Tmac offers more than just scoring, but his scoring in this case, is hurting the team at this efficiency. Its just awful.

Reks · Post #14 » by **Reks** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 3:50 am

is this jj vs mac vs ai
or was someone trying to be funny

I'll take t mac even with his injury concerns btw

_BBIB_ · Post #15 » by **_BBIB_** » Sat Apr 26, 2008 12:03 am

As a Hawks fan, JJ is losing my respect with his shying away from being the go to guy this post-season.

It's one thing to be off your game offensively. But it's a whole different story to not be agressive and JJ has been playing like he's a role player not a star. Far too little shot attempts

PopAGat · Post #16 » by **PopAGat** » Sat Apr 26, 2008 4:14 am

No contest, Joe Johnson.

NDaATL · Post #17 » by **NDaATL** » Sat Apr 26, 2008 1:30 pm

_BBIB_ wrote:As a Hawks fan, JJ is losing my respect with his shying away from being the go to guy this post-season.

It's one thing to be off your game offensively. But it's a whole different story to not be agressive and JJ has been playing like he's a role player not a star. Far too little shot attempts

It's because he's getting doubled as soon as he catches the ball, if he shot more they would just be bad shots. It's a smart play by Boston because noone on our team can hit a jumpshot to save their life and make Boston pay for it.