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Post#1 » by Adam1221 » Tue Apr 15, 2008 7:01 pm

Well friends the season is just about over its been an......."experience" to say the least, but either way its time to look into the future.
In this topic we play the role of management and make deals that we think will help the Nets in the distant/close future.

Here are mine:

1.Sign Okafur- he's a FA next season and can REALLY help us a lot, use Marcus and 1 of our 2 picks if needed.

2.If we fail to do #1 its time to open up the bank and offer some of our promising young guys for a player that can be a missing piece for a contender

http://realgm.com/src_checktrade.php?tradeid=4562985

http://realgm.com/src_checktrade.php?tradeid=4562981

Add 1 of the picks if needed, some amazing value here a great mix of young guys and expiring contracts that work both ways.

3.Draft Gallinari- we need a shooter and on a good game Gallinari is about as money as money can get.

4.Wont happen but still FIRE FFFRANK!!!!!
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Post#2 » by S.I.C. GM » Tue Apr 15, 2008 7:27 pm

1- FA or RFA?

2- Those trades are not happening.

3- I am always for a good shooter as long as he has heart and wants the ball.

4- Maybe during the summer ROD and KIKI be enlightened when they realize DAMN!!! How the hell did we make the playoffs.
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Post#3 » by Adam1221 » Tue Apr 15, 2008 7:54 pm

S.I.C. GM wrote:1- FA or RFA?

2- Those trades are not happening.

3- I am always for a good shooter as long as he has heart and wants the ball.

4- Maybe during the summer ROD and KIKI be enlightened when they realize DAMN!!! How the hell did we make the playoffs.



1.RFA sorry, but still we should defenetily make a move for him.
2.Youre probably right but hey you never know.
3.That describes Gallinari to a pulp.
4.I suppose you meant miss the playoffs and lol yeah...
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Post#4 » by Birth of the Cool » Sun Apr 20, 2008 3:44 pm

any interest in a JJ Redick / Marcus Williams swap ?

Both players still have promise but just don't seem to fit with their respective coaches philosophies and a change of scenery for both may do them well.

We know Nets desperately need a shooter & a backup for Vince and JJ may be able to fill those roles (this is assuming Ager isn't in the Nets future plans...even though I would like to see him get a shot here). Problem here for the Nets is who then do they fill the back up PG position with ?

Orlando is for good or bad committed to Jameer but would Marcus be a better future backup prospect for them over Carlos Arroyo ? Keyon Dooling isn't a "true" PG so they may have interest if they plan/hope to unload at least one of Carlos / Keyon.

or do the Nets hold onto Marcus as the 1-2 PG punch combo & go after a more established (veteran) shooter like Mike Miller or use Marcus as part of a bigger trade.
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Post#5 » by MrDollarBills » Sun Apr 20, 2008 5:16 pm

Has Reddick even shown that he can be a capable shooter in the NBA?
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Post#6 » by RBNICE » Sun Apr 20, 2008 8:05 pm

This team needs a young strong PF that can shoot over 50% rebound and defend and run the floor
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Post#7 » by vincecarter4pres » Sun Apr 20, 2008 8:37 pm

RBNICE wrote:This team needs a young strong PF that can shoot over 50% rebound and defend and run the floor



We should trade for Josh Boone. Wait a minute...........................

This team needs a post scoring big man, that can fill it up with his back to the basket with an assorted repetiore of moves, who can also shoot and play really good man to man D.

Like a younger version of Rasheed Wallace.
But that player isn't available if there is one. Maybe Lamarcus Aldrigde, and he isn't going anywhere.

I wouldn't mind trading for Rasheed Wallace as long as it wasn't in a deal for RJ.
But that would never happen.
Then if needed for chemistry issues or whatever, trade RJ for a different SF, maybe Odom if he was available.

Edit:I know this trade would never happen, and a lot of you would be against trading for Sheed for numerous different reasons ranging from age to attitude and everything in between.
DISCLAIMER:I know this trade will almost definetely not happen.

Keith Van Horn
Swift
Sean Williams
Future 1st rounder

For

Rasheed Wallace.


Seperate trade:
RJ, Ager

for

Marion

That would be a hell of a lineup:

PG Harris
SG VC
SF Marion
PF Boone
C Sheed

Bench: Krstic(if resigned),whoever we draft, Marcus Williams, Boki(if resigned), anyone we might sign with the MLE, Hassel, maybe Diop.

That starting lineup would be a defensive stalwart.
One of the best rebounding teams in the NBA as well, period.
It would also create matchup nightmares for any team.
Harris is a one man fast break with Marion, VC and Boone running with him as finishers and VC and Sheed also trailing to pop open 3's.
Sheed has a serious post game as well for half court sets and with his ability to hit 3's he stretches defenses, forcing the opposing teams center or PF to come out of their defensive comfort zone, unclogging the lane for a cutting Marion or a penetrating Harris or VC.
VC is a great playmaker and halfcourt go to guy as well.
Boone and Marion are very good offensive rebounders.

That would be a sick team.
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Post#8 » by vincecarter4pres » Sun Apr 20, 2008 8:39 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:Has Reddick even shown that he can be a capable shooter in the NBA?


Yes.
In numerous pregame shoot-a-rounds. :falloff:
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Post#9 » by Adam1221 » Sun Apr 20, 2008 9:56 pm

Birth of the Cool wrote:any interest in a JJ Redick / Marcus Williams swap ?

Both players still have promise but just don't seem to fit with their respective coaches philosophies and a change of scenery for both may do them well.

We know Nets desperately need a shooter & a backup for Vince and JJ may be able to fill those roles (this is assuming Ager isn't in the Nets future plans...even though I would like to see him get a shot here). Problem here for the Nets is who then do they fill the back up PG position with ?

Orlando is for good or bad committed to Jameer but would Marcus be a better future backup prospect for them over Carlos Arroyo ? Keyon Dooling isn't a "true" PG so they may have interest if they plan/hope to unload at least one of Carlos / Keyon.

or do the Nets hold onto Marcus as the 1-2 PG punch combo & go after a more established (veteran) shooter like Mike Miller or use Marcus as part of a bigger trade.


No way dude, the only trades we should go for are for veteran's Frank has proved through the years that he can get to a rookie's confidence deeper than a Japanese Katana
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Post#10 » by Birth of the Cool » Mon Apr 21, 2008 12:06 am

MrDollarBills wrote:Has Reddick even shown that he can be a capable shooter in the NBA?


well that's the whole point. JJ hasn't really had a chance to show if he's NBA material or not and Marcus while getting more playing time is also a question mark.

If both players were "established" good players then obviously neither team would consider the trade. The trade is only interesting because both basically only have 'potential' as their biggest asset and both their current teams may not be the best places for them to show one way or the other.
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Post#11 » by bigballa3jj » Mon Apr 21, 2008 2:27 am

i dont think the magic need another pg.....
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Post#12 » by JAX » Mon Apr 21, 2008 3:09 am

would you trade:
KVH Swift Hassell BOTH picks for
Curry JC and Balkman?

Curry gives you inside scoring you don't have to compliment your athletic defenders and JC a combo guard off the bench behind VC and DH. Balkman solid role player off the bench to replace Hassell and spell RJ.
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Post#13 » by Birth of the Cool » Mon Apr 21, 2008 3:22 am

bigballa3jj wrote:i dont think the magic need another pg.....


...pretty much covered this point in my original post.

They have a PG rotation of Jameer / Arroyo / Dooling. I believe Arroyo / Dooling contracts are ending and Orlando from what I've read wasn't even enamored with the PG situtation and may be interested in a project like Marcus when from all accounts they are cooling on the project of JJ.

That's all I was saying. Two projects swapped but I guess one line quips are enough discussion. Just trying...
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Post#14 » by RJ 24 » Mon Apr 21, 2008 3:37 am

I know that Orlando needs big man help off the bench so i would do a S/T Diop for Redick trade. Orlando doesn't go into a bidding war for Diop, and we get a shooter off the bench. The contracts would most likely be similar.
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Post#15 » by vincecarter4pres » Mon Apr 21, 2008 4:31 am

JAX wrote:would you trade:
KVH Swift Hassell BOTH picks for
Curry JC and Balkman?

Curry gives you inside scoring you don't have to compliment your athletic defenders and JC a combo guard off the bench behind VC and DH. Balkman solid role player off the bench to replace Hassell and spell RJ.



Do we have to pay for the supersizing of Curry's extra value meals? :burger:
Yuck. :sour:
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Post#16 » by vincecarter4pres » Mon Apr 21, 2008 4:35 am

RJ 24 wrote:I know that Orlando needs big man help off the bench so i would do a S/T Diop for Redick trade. Orlando doesn't go into a bidding war for Diop, and we get a shooter off the bench. The contracts would most likely be similar.


There will be no bidding war over Diop unless the 2 teams bidding are not located in New Jersey.

1st offer of 3 mil a year or more takes him, guarenteed.

Plus Orlando already has there own more improved Diop, people like to call him Adonal.
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Post#17 » by kamaze » Mon Apr 21, 2008 12:24 pm

RBNICE wrote:This team needs a young strong PF that can shoot over 50% rebound and defend and run the floor


I agree they need to draft a better Josh Boone in Darrell Arthur he can hit the jumpshot as well.
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Post#18 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Apr 21, 2008 2:24 pm

I don't think Rod is interested in trading for an uninsurable contract(re: Fat Boy Curry)
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Post#19 » by RJ 24 » Mon Apr 21, 2008 7:47 pm

vincecarter4pres wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



There will be no bidding war over Diop unless the 2 teams bidding are not located in New Jersey.

1st offer of 3 mil a year or more takes him, guarenteed.

Plus Orlando already has there own more improved Diop, people like to call him Adonal.

There can and probably be a lot of teams interested in Diop's services this offseason. He is a valuable player, so much that Dallas hated to see him go when they traded for Kidd. Toughness and heart is hard to find in the NBA now a days and teams see that. I see someone giving him 3.5-4 mill a year.
Plus Orlando is skinny up front and want a Diop type player. Foyle is a free agent and by no means is he better than Diop.
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Post#20 » by vincecarter4pres » Mon Apr 21, 2008 8:46 pm

I think you are right, some teams might vastly overpay for the offensive liability/1 foul per every 4 minutes that is Diop
As for Adonal, I just think you are wrong.
Adonal ain't much better, but yes, he is better, or at very least equal.
At Least Foyle has hit a career high of 20 points on 2 seperate occasions, 20 total rebounds and 9 blocks.
Plus he is cheaper.
And Shamsports is still half down, but Hoopshype has Foyle signed for next season for around 1.5 mill.
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