Seasons Over: Top 25 Power Forwards in the NBA.

UDRIH14 · Post #21 » by **UDRIH14** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:45 am

amare should be lucky his even in top5 cause steve nash makes him look good in that system...

Post #22 » by **The Rebel** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 12:59 pm

Did you forget that the game is played on both ends of the court?

Post #23 » by **dockingsched** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 2:48 pm

Duiz wrote:It gets to me how idiotic Scalibrine is being. Al Jefferson is a PF, Emeka Okafor plays Center.

al jefferson played almost all of his minutes at center this season. according to 82games.com he played 69% of all of his team's minutes at center. in comparsion, he only played 3% his the available minutes at pf.

http://www.82games.com/0708/07MIN15C.HTM

the thing is, okafor has basically the same minute distribution as jefferson. he's at 62% at center, 5% at pf. neither should be on the list if based on last season. if one is going to be put in, it should be al jefferson, not okafor.

Scalabrine · Post #24 » by **Scalabrine** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 4:39 pm

Duiz wrote:It gets to me how idiotic Scalibrine is being. Al Jefferson is a PF, Emeka Okafor plays Center. Both Paul Millsap and Jason Maxiell are better than David Lee or Zach Randolph at this point. And also how is Rasheed Wallace behind Antawn Jamison and company.

This guy must have been high on lsd when he made the list, and must have cracked out uncontrollably, normally someone that high, thinking that adding Zach Randolph, Josh Smith, and David Lee that high.

Jefferson is a Center on the Wolves this season without question. I thought Okafor started at PF next to Muhammed after the trade if hes not a PF my bad but he sure seems like one. There is no possible way that you can convince me that Maxiel and Milsap are have been better than Lee and Randolph both have had much better numbers on the offensive end (not even close) and niether Maxiel or Milsap are that much better than on defense either. Your just being a homer like usual.

Scalabrine · Post #25 » by **Scalabrine** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 4:43 pm

I knew the Amare over Duncan thing would be controversial but Amare has been better this season, I know Duncan is probably the greatest PF of all time but just because he is doesnt mean I can put him number 1 every year, Stoudamire has been better this season and his numbers will prove it, it doesnt matter what "system" he plays in its a list based on this season.

DanniIce · Post #26 » by **DanniIce** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 4:49 pm

Duncan still owns his ass when it counts.

Post #27 » by **dockingsched** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 5:28 pm

Scalabrine wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Jefferson is a Center on the Wolves this season without question. I thought Okafor started at PF next to Muhammed after the trade if hes not a PF my bad but he sure seems like one. There is no possible way that you can convince me that Maxiel and Milsap are have been better than Lee and Randolph both have had much better numbers on the offensive end (not even close) and niether Maxiel or Milsap are that much better than on defense either. Your just being a homer like usual.

nazr only started 29 games. the bobcats usual lineup was gerald wallace at the 4 and okafor at the 5.

the bobcats two most played lineups include wallace at the 4 and okafor at the 5.

http://www.82games.com/0708/0708CHA2.HTM

conleyorbust · Post #28 » by **conleyorbust** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 5:57 pm

I'd put Duncan at C anyway. When Robinson/Nazr/Rasho were there it was different but for the past couple of years he has been almost exclusively a C.

AIfan3 · Post #29 » by **AIfan3** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 6:02 pm

Based on this season.. Only lsted top 10

1. KG
2. Duncan
3. Stoudamire
4. Dirk
5. Boozer
6. Gasol
7. Bosh
8. Marion
9. Lewis
10.Aldridge

conleyorbust · Post #30 » by **conleyorbust** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 7:36 pm

AIfan3 wrote:Based on this season.. Only lsted top 10

1. KG
2. Duncan
3. Stoudamire
4. Dirk
5. Boozer
6. Gasol
7. Bosh
8. Marion
9. Lewis
10.Aldridge

Lewis and Marion over Smith and Jamison?

SuigintouEV · Post #31 » by **SuigintouEV** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 10:18 pm

1a) KG
1b) Timmy D
3) Pau Gasol
4) Rasheed Wallace
5) Dirk Nowitzki
6) Amare Stoudemire
7) Carlos Boozer

David West
9) Chris Bosh
10) Lamar Odom

Totally 0% unbiased from game 1 of the playoffs. ;D

PDXKnight · Post #32 » by **PDXKnight** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 12:34 am

TD should be at the top of this list. He's the best PF to ever play the game and is at or just past him prime. Also, Amare should be a couple of spots down and Randolph should be waaayyy further down.

Post #33 » by **revprodeji** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 4:06 am

Al Jefferson is a center, but played almost all his time at the 5.

If he is a 4 he is a top 10 4 easily. He is a crazy good player.

ubernathan · Post #34 » by **ubernathan** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 6:43 am

WHERE IS RADKO TORYAKASTEIN?

Post #35 » by **Luv those Knicks** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 7:21 pm

ponder276 wrote:Amare over Duncan? Yes he's a better scorer, but he does play on a much faster paced team, with arguably the best pick and roll PG in the leauge. Far more importantly, Duncan is a defensive force, Amare is a defensive seive. TD is also a superior rebounder and a far superior passer (TD's passing out of the post is really underrated).

Also, Zach Randolph is way too high. There's a reason Portland took on a terrible contract (Francis) and a below average big (Frye) just to get rid of him - he has a negative impact on his team. He's the definition of a black hole on offense, and he essentially doesn't play defense. There is no way he should be ranked above useful, valuable players like Shard, Okafor, Odom and Sheed.
To me this play pretty much epitomizes Z-bo:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=7lvYf08X6tc

You are overstating what happened.

Frye was a 2nd year player, former #8 pick who'd had a nifty rookie season (easily the 4th best rookie in his class), and he still had some value as a prospect at the time of the trade.

Francis had agreed to a huge pay cut towards his buyout cause he wanted to return to the Rockets.

Portland saved a bundle in salary in making that trade, you make it sound like they were desperate to get rid of Zach, and, maybe they were, because they didn't want Zach to corrupt Oden, but they recieved several offers, not just 1 from NY, and they didn't "take back a bunch of junk" as you make it sound. They got a huge salary relief and a prospect - which is more than the Knicks are likely to get for Zach if they try to move him next season. :-)

Post #36 » by **Luv those Knicks** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 7:25 pm

Scalabrine wrote:I knew the Amare over Duncan thing would be controversial but Amare has been better this season, I know Duncan is probably the greatest PF of all time but just because he is doesnt mean I can put him number 1 every year, Stoudamire has been better this season and his numbers will prove it, it doesnt matter what "system" he plays in its a list based on this season.

Well, in Duncan's defense, Duncan (like Shaq used to) doesn't go 100% in the regular season. He saves it for the playoffs.

I think, on account of defense and just plain skill, Duncan needs to be ahead of Amare, but I respect you for sticking to your argument. Nothing wrong with that.

Post #37 » by **Luv those Knicks** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 7:27 pm

revprodeji wrote:Al Jefferson is a center, but played almost all his time at the 5.

If he is a 4 he is a top 10 4 easily. He is a crazy good player.

With Crazy bad D.

I mean, Jefferson makes Zach Randolph look like a top notch defender. Where did he learn defense, oh, wait, he didn't - that was a silly question. Somebody should teach him some. Send him to the summer league or something. Please!!!

wigglestrue · Post #38 » by **wigglestrue** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 7:29 pm

How is Randolph's D any better than Jefferson????? :crazy:

Post #39 » by **Luv those Knicks** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 7:30 pm

wigglestrue wrote:How is Randolph's D any better than Jefferson?????

Randolph plays a little bit of D sometimes. Jefferson doesn't play any, ever.