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Post#1 » by hiphop1 » Thu Apr 17, 2008 11:17 am

DE has us taking Courtney Lee in the first and Demarcus Nelson in the second.

raftnet has us taking Kyle Weaver and Kyle hines.

Anyone seen these guys play, any thoughts?
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Post#2 » by DanTown8587 » Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:40 pm

I would assume its gonna be a two guard. Allen is the one starter that has serious health problems and Tony Allen is a FA so depth there needs to be addressed. Weaver is the better defensive prospect, Lee the offensive prospect. I would go Lee though because when Allen leaves I think Lee would be better suited to replace him than Weaver would.

Second round pick, store and stash in D-League because the Celtics will get some ring chasers to fill out the main roster. I would expect some big C (they really only have Perkins at the 5) and watch him play the entire D-League season.
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Post#3 » by bigballa3jj » Thu Apr 17, 2008 4:22 pm

if david padgett is available at #60, i think he'd be a good pick for the C's
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Post#4 » by moocow007 » Thu Apr 17, 2008 7:14 pm

Honestly, I think you go with the best player available regardless of position. If Tony A leaves via free agency you can probably pick another backup SG up if necessary. Neither Weaver nor Lee are of the caliber that would likely be looked as as a replacement for Ray-Ray.

Boson will probably be looking at either a complimentary role player or a project that might have upside. Considering that it's still pretty much the "Big 3" that will drive this Celtic Juggernaut and that two of the three are getting older, I'd figure draft someone with high upside that maybe in 2 or 3 years will be able to step in and become more than just a role player.
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Post#5 » by moocow007 » Thu Apr 17, 2008 7:18 pm

As far as the players go, Kyle Weaver just seems to be too soft and unassuming to really be much of a factor in the NBA. Sure he has nice height and athleticism but he's got a long way to go in the strength of body and will standpoint to be able to do much of anything IMHO. I'd go with Lee who is more of a scrappy player who can probably provide some points off the bench.
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Post#6 » by BMF Jet Jaguar » Fri Apr 18, 2008 12:07 am

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Post#7 » by AQuintus » Fri Apr 18, 2008 1:31 am

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Post#8 » by sox839 » Sat Apr 19, 2008 2:10 pm

I'm hoping for joe alexander he isn't quite ready yet but he definitely has upside as we saw in the tourney. 2nd round just take the best player available regardless of where they play. We need a big so if not alexander maybe a center or power forward pay attention to trent plaisted though he couldbe picked by us as Danny has special insight into him sense his sonplayed at byu and with trent.
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Post#9 » by hiphop1 » Sat Apr 19, 2008 8:45 pm

I am hoping we take Joey Dorsey.
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Post#10 » by moocow007 » Sat Apr 19, 2008 11:22 pm

hiphop1 wrote:I am hoping we take Joey Dorsey.


You kinda already have a Dorsey type in Kendrick Perkins. Someone that is strong, can defend the post and block some shots. Dorsey is a little more athletic than Perkins but both are short C's that play very similar roles.

I think Bill Walker might be someone that would be interesting for the Celts. He spent this season recovering from knee surgery and started looking more and more like his old self as the season progressed. We are talking about a guy with elite athleticism, an NBA ready body and who plays with a chip.

I think what also hurt Walker other than the injury is having Beasley on the team and taking a Robin role to Beasley's Batman. There is no doubt Walker is talented enough and if he was on a different team where he was the featured guy I think he'd be talked about as a possible lottery pick.

As it is because of the knee surgery and because of playing in the shadow of Beasley has IMO put his draft projection to be way lower than it should merit and Boston could end up with a lottery caliber steal here.
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Post#11 » by shrink » Mon Apr 21, 2008 9:14 pm

There's way too much variation at the #30 pick to have a legitimate discussion. So many players values will go up and down between now and then, that it seems like a waste of time to discuss them now -- most good prospects will be gone by #30 anyway.

I think BOS ought to consider trading their pick for a high second rounder, a future pick, or even better, add value to get a vet. Most likely, anyone picked at #30 is not going to help in Pierce, Ray Allen and KG's window, so delaying the pick or stashing it in Europe seems to make more sense. Of course, if they can find the salary to match, they can throw in the low value pick to get a vet that can help now.
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Post#12 » by moocow007 » Tue Apr 22, 2008 12:06 am

shrink wrote:There's way too much variation at the #30 pick to have a legitimate discussion. So many players values will go up and down between now and then, that it seems like a waste of time to discuss them now -- most good prospects will be gone by #30 anyway.

I think BOS ought to consider trading their pick for a high second rounder, a future pick, or even better, add value to get a vet. Most likely, anyone picked at #30 is not going to help in Pierce, Ray Allen and KG's window, so delaying the pick or stashing it in Europe seems to make more sense. Of course, if they can find the salary to match, they can throw in the low value pick to get a vet that can help now.


While I don't disagree I think the point of this thread is to talk hypothetically based on what most of the mock draft sites have going in the bottom of the 1st and early 2nd round. And there most definitely are guys that can help out teams right away (Dorsey being one of them and Bill Walker being another). Obviously it's unlikely to find someone that can help right away and be studly but I don't think most Celtic fans are under the pretense that they'll end up with a starter or even 6th man with the last pick in the drafts 1st round.
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Post#13 » by Curmudgeon » Tue Apr 22, 2008 2:18 pm

It's really hard to predict who will be there with picks #30 and #60. As for pick #30, someone always slips. Until the NCAA toirnament I was hoping for Brandon Rush, but he will almost certainly be gone. Bill Walker is a nice player and would be a good choice at #30, but he may be gone too.

I agree with those who say that the Celtics need a wing player to develop. Ray Allen and Pierce aren't getting any younger, and Tony Allen is a free agent.

As for #60, who knows-- and who cares? Barring a miracle, you are drafting for the Utah Flames.

My theory on second round picks is that you look for a flawed player with one outstanding skill or attribute and hope you can develop the rest.

Historically, when the much maligned Chris Wallace was around, the Celtics have done an excellent job with picks in the late second round, including Darius Songaila, Brandon Hunter and Ryan Gomes.
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Post#14 » by hiphop1 » Tue Apr 22, 2008 10:17 pm

Ainge drafted Gomes. I think you take best player available at 30 and I think that player will be Dorsey.
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Post#15 » by Curmudgeon » Wed Apr 23, 2008 4:55 pm

I thik if you have #30 in most drafts you try to trade it. Unfortunately this year the Celtics must make the pick.
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Post#16 » by GregB » Thu Apr 24, 2008 8:30 pm

Curmudgeon wrote:I thik if you have #30 in most drafts you try to trade it. Unfortunately this year the Celtics must make the pick.


True, But they can work out a deal and trade a players rights after the selection is made.
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Post#17 » by A.J. » Thu Apr 24, 2008 10:09 pm

Joey Dorsey in round 1 and James Gist in round 2 would be perfect for the C's.
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Post#18 » by djdjdj28 » Thu Apr 24, 2008 10:21 pm

That wouldn't be perfect for the C's why would they want to draft 2 players with similar skill sets? I'm thinking Walker and possibly Padgett, or if he slips through the cracks, even Riek.
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Post#19 » by ClipperDomination » Fri Apr 25, 2008 4:37 am

Kyle Weaver sounds like a perfect fit in Boston if you ask me.
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Post#20 » by Big_Mac79 » Fri Apr 25, 2008 5:14 pm

I have been able to watch Kyle for a few years and Weaver would fit nicely in Boston. He is a big guard 6'5" that is able to run the point. He is a great facilitator of the ball. He can cut to the hole and finish very well. I would say he is much better suited to play the 1. He is not a great 3pt shooter but good mid range. Kyle also has a great personality. He has not been a trouble maker and has not ever had any problems. My friends and I were just talking about him going to Boston last night. I think he would be a great pick.

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