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Post#1 » by HarlemHeat37 » Wed Apr 23, 2008 5:39 pm

Due to the physical nature, who are some players that wouldn't be as successful in past decades? who are the players that benefit the most from the "softer" defensive rules?..
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Post#2 » by bigballa3jj » Wed Apr 23, 2008 5:54 pm

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Post#3 » by Brooklyn718 » Wed Apr 23, 2008 6:01 pm

Bosh/Prince/Lebron :)
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Post#4 » by Bucs80 » Wed Apr 23, 2008 6:03 pm

Brooklyn718 wrote:Bosh/Prince/Lebron :)


Lebron could do all the fundamentals.

I think he would still be like a Joe Johnson or something.
litex wrote:I'm pretty sure that, no matter what he does, Lebron will never have "tittles" like Shaquille O'Neal does, or for that matter, Chales Barkley.
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Post#5 » by tsherkin » Wed Apr 23, 2008 6:08 pm

Lebron wouldn't be much impacted at all, do you see what he's dealing with against Washington? How he's built?
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Post#6 » by DanTown8587 » Wed Apr 23, 2008 6:09 pm

My guy is Bosh. Would have been a C, yet would have been killed in previous NBA generations.
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Post#7 » by Brooklyn718 » Wed Apr 23, 2008 6:10 pm

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Lebron could do all the fundamentals.

I think he would still be like a Joe Johnson or something.


An injured Joe johnson... There wasn't many easy layups you know. He would have to hit the Jay consistently with hand checking and there was more shotblocking also.
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Post#8 » by TheKingOfVa360 » Wed Apr 23, 2008 6:13 pm

Bosh, Kevin Martin, Wade
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Post#9 » by Scoot McGroot » Wed Apr 23, 2008 6:15 pm

Dwyane Wade. He would've literally been killed going to the hoop, or he would've learned to hit the J with more consistency.
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Post#10 » by celticfan42487 » Wed Apr 23, 2008 6:18 pm

LeBron would be stronger then most PFs still back then. He'd do fine but might end up with more a career Wade is having. MIGHT because of the constant hard fouls all year long.

Also this is only if he had to carry his team like he does now.

Of course no one required US basketball to be represented by NBA players back then so LeBron would have goten more rest during the off-season.
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Post#11 » by TheKingOfVa360 » Wed Apr 23, 2008 6:24 pm

Bucs80 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Lebron could do all the fundamentals.

I think he would still be like a Joe Johnson or something.



Lebron isn't a great shooter and is a very poor free throw shooter. So no he doesn't do all the fundamentals. Even with that said he is a top 3 NBA player in the league today.
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Post#12 » by Brooklyn718 » Wed Apr 23, 2008 6:28 pm

Iverson was playing with jordan etc...and he sliced him out his shoes twice then drained the jumper.. Iverson was also not injured like that so He would/did survive depending on how far back you are refering to
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Post#13 » by Rocky5000 » Wed Apr 23, 2008 6:28 pm

Iverson.
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Post#14 » by TheKingOfVa360 » Wed Apr 23, 2008 6:32 pm

Iverson was also notorious for carrying the ball something he wouldn't have got away with in the 80's
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Post#15 » by BobbySura » Wed Apr 23, 2008 6:42 pm

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Post#16 » by carrottop12 » Wed Apr 23, 2008 6:42 pm

CP3, he would get wrecked everytime he put up that little floater he takes.

Imagine Paul going into the lane on Malone or Barkley. He would get maimed.
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Post#17 » by TheKingOfVa360 » Wed Apr 23, 2008 6:52 pm

Batronuj wrote:CP3, he would get wrecked everytime he put up that little floater he takes.

Imagine Paul going into the lane on Malone or Barkley. He would get maimed.



And Isiah Thomas got throw around like a rag doll. CP is almost as tough as Zeke (who was one of the toughest players ever). He would have been great in the 80's. Chris Paul has all the fundamentals down pact.
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Post#18 » by Canomad » Wed Apr 23, 2008 7:17 pm

Rocky5000 wrote:Iverson.



iversons career would be over already

lebrons build and power and skill he would still be the same player. i dont think alot of the player could match up with todays players to be honest those guys were skinny not as strong, and not as athletic. lebron would beast in any era!!
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Post#19 » by tsherkin » Wed Apr 23, 2008 7:27 pm

TheKingOfVa360 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-




Lebron isn't a great shooter and is a very poor free throw shooter. So no he doesn't do all the fundamentals. Even with that said he is a top 3 NBA player in the league today.


That's actually a blatant lie about his FT shooting. He's not a good free throw shooter but he's certainly not "very poor." He's shot 70%+ from the line in all but one season, which makes him just about average or a little beneath average.

Anyway, realistically, Lebron probably would have been primarily a PF in the NBA of the 90s, one who passed really well but a PF nonetheless. He probably would have rebounded better than he has done thus far, which is impressive, passed a little less and been more like a flop of what Bird did at the 3/4 (a 4/3, rather than 3/4).
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Post#20 » by sp6r=underrated » Wed Apr 23, 2008 7:27 pm

People are greatly overstating the impact of the hand-check rule change. Hand-checking only played a major role in the NBA, roughly beginning in 92-93 till 03-04. Prior to that it was only a few teams that heavily relied on it (Bad Boy Pistons who brought it into vogue).

The real major is one that has been ongoing since the 1960's, stricter and stricter rules against cheap shots.

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