Al Horford should be the ROY

[NO-KG-AI]

Horford could not be put in that situation except for an expansion team. Put it this way Horford would not start on the Sonics. Nick Collison matched Horford numbers in less time and is better defensively. Wilcox is a better player than Collison.

The fact is Durant was good enough to give a lot of the offensive responsibility. You can't just say well if someone gave Horford that role. He did nothing in college to suggest he could be a number 1 right into the NBA. His post game isn't good enough to be a number 1. He has some post game against smaller players. You really think you can build an offense around what you seen from Horford right now?

I have to agree with him here.

[HeyIt'sMe]

Horford could not be put in that situation except for an expansion team. Put it this way Horford would not start on the Sonics. Nick Collison matched Horford numbers in less time and is better defensively. Wilcox is a better player than Collison.

The fact is Durant was good enough to give a lot of the offensive responsibility. You can't just say well if someone gave Horford that role. He did nothing in college to suggest he could be a number 1 right into the NBA. His post game isn't good enough to be a number 1. He has some post game against smaller players. You really think you can build an offense around what you seen from Horford right now?

I think he would of started on the Sonics, yes. The Sonics know how good Collison is, and he isn't going to get any better. Horford, had they drafted him 3rd overall, absolutely would of seen the court over Collison because skill wise he's a better player and you don't sit (in most cases, there are exceptions) a top 3 pick, especially one that is NBA ready, on the bench.

I also don't really care what Horford did in college because of the way that Florida team was constructed. Horford hardly ever shot his jumper in college, and now he gets to the NBA and lo-and-behold, he has a solid jumper. He wasn't required to be a big time scorer in college because his team and situation didn't call for it.

[CBS7]

This thread would have had a point back when Durant was scoring 18-19 and shooting 38-39%, but I think he's improved enough on those numbers to make him the clear frontrunner for ROY.

[richboy]

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I think he would of started on the Sonics, yes. The Sonics know how good Collison is, and he isn't going to get any better. Horford, had they drafted him 3rd overall, absolutely would of seen the court over Collison because skill wise he's a better player and you don't sit (in most cases, there are exceptions) a top 3 pick, especially one that is NBA ready, on the bench.

I also don't really care what Horford did in college because of the way that Florida team was constructed. Horford hardly ever shot his jumper in college, and now he gets to the NBA and lo-and-behold, he has a solid jumper. He wasn't required to be a big time scorer in college because his team and situation didn't call for it.

Well what your really saying is Horford would start not because he better because he is a rookie and we should see what he could do. Perhaps but there are plenty of rookies that don't start over what is obvious better veterans right now.

What Horford did in college is extremely important. Its funny Hawk fans were willing to give up the rights to Horford, pick 11 and either JJ or JS just for the number 2 pick in the draft. After seeing Horford for a year suddenly he better. What you saw in college is what Horford is right now. Occassional post up, jump shot, rebounding machine that got lots of garbage hoops. How does that equal lets make him number 1 Tim Duncan like option. He has done nothing like that at either level.

Durant was a number 1. He put up some of the best numbers in college basketball history. The Sonics had the luxury of letting Ray, Rashard or both go because they saw a kid that was capable of handling a big scoring load. If Durant played on the Hawks he would have challenged JJ for the number 1 option by season end. He definetely would be atleast the number 2 option. Horford is currently 6th on the Hawks in scoring. The Hawks would have to get rid of there top 5 scorers for Horford to be the number 1 option.

[sarah42]

kevin durant better get it.

did you see what he did to teams trying to get the last two spots for the playoffs in the west? omg!

the guy is unbelievable.

horford gets garbage points. he really isn't' impressive at all.
plus his team really isn't that much better than the sonics so we can cut the crap about the ROY going to a player on a good team since the hawks suck.

if anyone has watched the sonics, you can see just how far durant has come in the second half. he's a franchise player for sure.

[pr0wler]

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umm.. that's certainly a possibility but what's that got to do with this year's roy award

It's already established that he is the king of the straw-man fallacy but now we know he is a master of red herrings also!

I also can't stand the claim "he would score just as many points if he shot more." No, it doesn't work that way. If you use that logic then I could say if Jason Kapono shot more he could average as many points as Kobe (just a random example).

Now I wish I hadn't of used an analogy because High5 will probably counter with the argument "You're comparing Kapono's scoring ability to Kobe's?!?!" so I regret ever saying that! lol

Kevin Durant has had one of the best offensive rookie seasons in the last 15 years and people are actually trying to argue that he shouldn't win the ROY award. Hilarity at its finest.

[crkone]

Its just like Ryan Braun last year.