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Dallas Mavericks' poor defense handcuffing Kidd 

Post#1 » by HMFFL » Thu Apr 24, 2008 4:18 pm

Don't blame the trade for the Mavericks' current predicament.

Don't delude yourself into thinking all would be fine if this team still had Devin Harris and DeSagana Diop. Other issues have come to light over the last two months.

Still, as the Mavericks try to deal with the onslaught that is Chris Paul and the New Orleans Hornets, it's fair to ask what we should expect out of Jason Kidd.

Winning the individual duel with Paul isn't an option. Kidd was being honest before the series started when he said the Hornets star was the better point guard at this stage of their careers.

But let's be clear. Kidd was brought in here to make a difference. He was acquired to make those around him better. He must counter what Paul has done and impose his will on this series for the Mavericks to have a chance.

"I've got to do what I do best," Kidd said. "I have to try to control the tempo and somehow try to get my fingerprints on the 48 minutes of the game."

That's hard to do when the Mavericks can't get their hands on the ball in the open court.

Kidd is at his best in transition. The first quarter of Game 1 was the latest example. Kidd had five assists, and the Mavericks scored six points on the fast break to take a 26-19 lead. Guess how many points the Mavericks scored on the fast break in the next seven quarters?

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Post#2 » by DDansby123 » Thu Apr 24, 2008 6:07 pm

^ I knew David Moore had written that before I clicked the link. It's just too accurate to be anybody else.

His main point is basically that we have to defend the pick-and-roll better and rotate quicker defensively. Easier said that done. Any rotation we throw in there to correct one problem creates another. For example, we'd rotate and defend the PnR better with Bass than Damp, but then there's no shotblocker in there. We could throw George in to help defensively, too, but then we lose offensive punch. It's a tough call.
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Post#3 » by JES12 » Thu Apr 24, 2008 6:34 pm

David Moore is still an idiot
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Post#4 » by DDansby123 » Thu Apr 24, 2008 6:35 pm

JES12 wrote:David Moore is still an idiot


What did you disagree with?
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Post#5 » by JES12 » Thu Apr 24, 2008 6:52 pm

DDansby123 wrote:What did you disagree with?


the idiot David Moore wrote:Don't delude yourself into thinking all would be fine if this team still had Devin Harris and DeSagana Diop. Other issues have come to light over the last two months.


We still needed 1 swing player away from being title favorites. At least with Devin and Diop, I would have a LOT....TONS more confidence in a title than our current team.

And the problems that has risen are becuase of 1) The players we lost and 2) The players we aquired.

He is one of the worst writers in DMN history and dilusional himself.
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Post#6 » by DDansby123 » Thu Apr 24, 2008 7:08 pm

JES12 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
We still needed 1 swing player away from being title favorites. At least with Devin and Diop, I would have a LOT....TONS more confidence in a title than our current team.


How would one swing player make us favorites when we'd still have guys who you agree suck (JET, Stack, and Josh) and a coach whom you blame for all our problems? Moore's simply saying that even with Devin and Diop still here, there'd be plenty of problems, which you've admitted yourself.

And the problems that has risen are becuase of 1) The players we lost and 2) The players we aquired.


What problems have either arisen or gotten worse since the Kidd trade AND were caused by either the departure of Diop and Harris or the arrival of Kidd?
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Post#7 » by JES12 » Thu Apr 24, 2008 7:16 pm

DDansby123 wrote:What problems have either arisen or gotten worse since the Kidd trade AND were caused by either the departure of Diop and Harris or the arrival of Kidd?
Okay, yes, true...Avery is the main problem. He was the reason Harris never got more than 30 MPG when he deserved 38 (yes he did deserve 38 despite what you may say) in lieu of Terry and Barea. He was the reason why Diop avg 18 mpg and sometimes none in lieu of Dirk as center. He was the reason Hassell got no playing time in lieu of Brickhouse and Eddie Olds.

You you are right on that. But the part I quoted is rhetorical, right? If you actually expect an answer, I think you are smoking whatever it is that Moore is smoking.
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Post#8 » by DDansby123 » Thu Apr 24, 2008 7:23 pm

JES12 wrote:You you are right on that. But the part I quoted is rhetorical, right? If you actually expect an answer, I think you are smoking whatever it is that Moore is smoking.


I just want you to be clear about which problems are causing us to lose in this playoff series and how those problems were caused or made worse by the Kidd trade.
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Post#9 » by JES12 » Thu Apr 24, 2008 7:39 pm

Either
1) You have short term memory
2) You like arguing the same thing on every thread
3) You just like going over the same thing over and over again
4) Muliple people are logging on under your screen name

In case it's #1, read the other 15 or so threads starting about 2 months before the Devin trade to the one just yesterday. In case it's #2 I'm not going to oblige. In case it's #3, I suggest professional help. In case it's #4, I suggets you log off before the real DDansby catches you.
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Post#10 » by DDansby123 » Thu Apr 24, 2008 7:47 pm

I'd just like you to enumerate the causal links between the Kidd trade and our current playoff failures in a single post. I personally don't think you've done that to this point, and going back over several pages and threads would only confuse the issue further. Just take a couple of minutes and answer the question concisely in this thread, if you would.
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Post#11 » by dirkforpres » Thu Apr 24, 2008 11:58 pm

Not a bad article.. I like Jason Kidd and I still think the Mavs had to make the deal. You cant help but wonder what would have happened had we not done the deal though.
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Post#12 » by FGump » Fri Apr 25, 2008 2:57 am

Good points in that article.

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