OT: About the L.A. Lakers in the playoffs

greenbeans · Post #61 » by **greenbeans** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 4:14 pm

[quote="Allanon"][/quote]hes not the best center in your city, let alone #2 in the west. Big Al is dos in the west btw

Allanon · Post #62 » by **Allanon** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 4:44 pm

greenbeans wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

hes not the best center in your city, let alone #2 in the west. Big Al is dos in the west btw

Pau's game is a power forward's game, Bynum is a much better Center than Pau due to his interior defense which Pau isn't very good at. We all know Pau isn't very good defending the paint...he's adequate but not great. Bynum is a great defensive player in the paint.

Al Jefferson is good but he isn't a Center, too small and his defense is like a turnstile. Al is much better as a power forward. Bynum is balanced both on offense and defense. Bynum has excellent footwork and spins or drop-steps his way to a hoop. The tutelage by Kareem has given him amazing footwork.

Even in fewer minutes than Al Jefferson, and as a 3rd option, Bynum had him beat in almost every category except scoring.

greenbeans · Post #63 » by **greenbeans** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 8:12 pm

Allanon wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Pau's game is a power forward's game, Bynum is a much better Center than Pau due to his interior defense which Pau isn't very good at. We all know Pau isn't very good defending the paint...he's adequate but not great. Bynum is a great defensive player in the paint.

Al Jefferson is good but he isn't a Center, too small and his defense is like a turnstile. Al is much better as a power forward. Bynum is balanced both on offense and defense. Bynum has excellent footwork and spins or drop-steps his way to a hoop. The tutelage by Kareem has given him amazing footwork.

Even in fewer minutes than Al Jefferson, and as a 3rd option, Bynum had him beat in almost every category except scoring.

I was referring to Kaman. and i know Al is a Power forward, but still playiing out of position he was superior center imo. he was keyed on as a #1 and did a hell of a job

MyInsatiableOne · Post #64 » by **MyInsatiableOne** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 8:14 pm

I think all of us (outside LA) can agree that Bynum has a lot of upside and could well develop into a star center, but to this point has not shown enough on a consistent sustained basis to engender all the hype he gets.

GuyClinch · Post #65 » by **GuyClinch** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 8:55 pm

I think the loss of Bynum certainly hurts the Lakers chances. I liken his presence to the Knicks and Camby. Camby wasn't known as a great player yet but for that playoff season he really brought them up a level. Bynum can do the same thing when he is healthy..

The C's have to be certain to knock out the Lakers this year if we meet up with them - as with a healthy Bynum they are going to be tons tougher.

Pete

KobeFarmarEra · Post #66 » by **KobeFarmarEra** » Sun Apr 27, 2008 5:06 am

bruno sundov wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

I love how overly defensive you laker fans are. Your use of the word ignornance is getting old. Real **** old. So in saying that, why don't you prove to me that Pau isn't soft. Show me because I have only been watching him for 5+ years and don't see how he is tough. He would rather break his anckle playing "hard", for his country than for your team the Fakers.

What does that tell me. He doesn't care about your team. Adding him to LO,AB and KB 24 just made your team that much softer. I say SA drops you in 5 easy wins.

Tough talk coming from a fan of a team that just got stomped by the Atlanta Hawks.

A.I + Melo 10 for 38 today. Nuggets average 110 pts on the season..84 today. Playoff defense. And thats without Ariza (second best perimeter defender on the team) and Bynum (best anchor on the team).

KobeFarmarEra · Post #67 » by **KobeFarmarEra** » Sun Apr 27, 2008 5:09 am

MyInsatiableOne wrote:I think all of us (outside LA) can agree that Bynum has a lot of upside and could well develop into a star center, but to this point has not shown enough on a consistent sustained basis to engender all the hype he gets.

It's pretty obvious you dont watch Laker games. The Hype Bynum got was from what he did on the court against NBA players. All of it was deserving considering his length, size, footwork and touch around the basket.

Greg Oden has gotten infinitely more hype than Bynum and he hasn't even set foot on a NBA court.

MyInsatiableOne · Post #68 » by **MyInsatiableOne** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 1:05 pm

^^Why would I watch a lot of Laker games? I'm a Celtics fan! That'd be like a straight man watching gay porn! (Don't they make those movies in LA?)

Anyway, be that as it may, Bynum is not yet the second coming of Kareem, which is all we hear coming out of LA and ESPN...that's what turns a lot of people off in the rest of the country.

KobeFarmarEra · Post #69 » by **KobeFarmarEra** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 7:24 am

MyInsatiableOne wrote:^^Why would I watch a lot of Laker games? I'm a Celtics fan! That'd be like a straight man watching gay porn! (Don't they make those movies in LA?)

Anyway, be that as it may, Bynum is not yet the second coming of Kareem, which is all we hear coming out of LA and ESPN...that's what turns a lot of people off in the rest of the country.

Please. The hype Bynum has gotten is completely justified and isn't nearly as gross as you're implying it.

But hey, this is a thread about the Lakers in the playoffs. Lakers just swept a 50 win team in West.

Lets hope Boston can actually get out of the first round because I'm looking forward to that LAL/BOS finals matchup.

purp8gldvanessa · Post #70 » by **purp8gldvanessa** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:01 am

Can't really a celtic fan for talking smack after 20+ years of mediocrity. But anyway, Boston has a good team now so it is only expected for fans to stop covering their faces in shame. Hoping for a celtics/lakers finals.

campybatman · Post #71 » by **campybatman** » Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:19 pm

Well, like Ray Allen of Bryant, it's proving that the Lakers fans are just as predictable. I knew you would read about some of their fans claiming that the finals series would be different and the Lakers would win the series with Bynum.

Rather than give the Celtics credit the Lakers fans would instead rather make excuses.

I disagree with Jon Barry in proclaiming that the Lakers choked in game four. No, that isn't giving credit to the Celtics for coming back and taking the game. The Lakers didn't give it away as much as the Celtics took it. Get it right.

The series isn't over yet but don't say Bynum isn't there because it isn't like he was playing during the playoffs and suddenly got injured prior to the Boston/Los Angeles series.

If Bynum is such an important part of the Lakers' starting line up. Then the Lakers should be a lock to return to the NBA finals next season. However, I think his numbers could dip with Gasol being on the team now. Even if Odom is traded... Bynum's the third option at best. Like Boston this season, the Lakers will have an adjustment period as Bynum and Gasol get used to playing together.

seccom · Post #72 » by **seccom** » Fri Jun 13, 2008 11:39 pm

bonsaiflipflops wrote:Well, like Ray Allen of Bryant, it's proving that the Lakers fans are just as predictable. I knew you would read about some of their fans claiming that the finals series would be different and the Lakers would win the series with Bynum.

Rather than give the Celtics credit the Lakers fans would instead rather make excuses.

I disagree with Jon Barry in proclaiming that the Lakers choked in game four. No, that isn't giving credit to the Celtics for coming back and taking the game. The Lakers didn't give it away as much as the Celtics took it. Get it right.

The series isn't over yet but don't say Bynum isn't there because it isn't like he was playing during the playoffs and suddenly got injured prior to the Boston/Los Angeles series.

If Bynum is such an important part of the Lakers' starting line up. Then the Lakers should be a lock to return to the NBA finals next season. However, I think his numbers could dip with Gasol being on the team now. Even if Odom is traded... Bynum's the third option at best. Like Boston this season, the Lakers will have an adjustment period as Bynum and Gasol get used to playing together.

Just an interesting observation:

A lot of fan of US sport team always seems to have a need for other teams' fan to give their team credit.

Is it the truth is always between somewhere in between Team A is great and Team B suck?

If a team do not have all the players, it is a fact. Is it an excuse? Of course it is. So what is a big deal about an excuse.