Does Iggy's play in this series change your thoughts on him?

[LongLiveHinkie]

If Iggy stinks it up for the rest of the series(regardless of the outcome) will it change your opinion on whether or not you want to pay him what he wants or whether or not you want to sign him at all?

I'm not ready to give up on him after 3 playoff games, but you never want to have guys on your team who can't play under pressure. Iggy isn't just off on his jump shot. He is playing scared. Random turnovers, dumb passes, missed dunks of all things. Iggy NEVER misses a dunk.

I'm a little worried, but not ready to jump off the ship yet. But I will reiterate that I'm always weary of people who shrivel in the playoffs.

[Kunlun]

He just isn't a go-to type of player. That's fine because he can be a very valuable role player for us.

[dbodner]

I think most people are pretty realistic in what iggy is, which is a very good complimentary player. When Iggy is out of his element trying to be a top option against a terrible matchup for him, he's going to struggle. I do think his ability as a #2/#3 is evident in that he's contributing without scoring. When you're not relying on him for 20+ ppg, these traits will become more evident.

[sixersinsider]

i personally am surprised at iggys performence thus far in the playoffs.Its not so much that his shot isnt falling.....but its the fear that he is displaying.....Hes thinking instead of reacting..His team and coach are losing confidence in him with every bad shot and turnover. Dala is a disapointment on a team full of bright spots.

[barkley34]

I think most people are pretty realistic in what iggy is, which is a very good complimentary player. When Iggy is out of his element trying to be a top option against a terrible matchup for him, he's going to struggle. I do think his ability as a #2/#3 is evident in that he's contributing without scoring. When you're not relying on him for 20+ ppg, these traits will become more evident.

+1

[tk76]

I shows he isn't ready to assume the dominant role he wants to take- but its not like he is dogging it. I still pull for the guy, and figure he will somehow use this to further push himself to continue to improve his game.

Trying to turn lemons into lemonade, but maybe in the long run this is good for him and the team. He will be fueled to be a better player, and the team will know it needs to add more scorers to take the pressure off of Miller and Iguodala.

Of course Ed probably knew this, but its still not bad to be able to test things in the crucible of the playoffs. better for Iguodala to work out these major kinks this year, and come back in the future with a major chip on his shoulder. Its not like he can't get better.

[bernal100]

I can't believe what I'm reading.
Hell, ANY three Taco Bell workers can stop ANY NBA player. Let alone three NBA players. Cause that's what Iggy is seeing everytime he touches the ball. The Pistons,,,up to this point have double-teams on Iggy once he gets the ball, and when he drives to the hoop, their inside big man comes over as well.


Anyone who dares say that Prince is guarding Iggy one on one has NOT watched one second of this series!
I saw Iggy easily break his double to get into the lane for 3 to 4 short jumpers, and fade aways, and they were good looks. He just missed them. Happens to everyone.



I still say Iggy is not worth franchise money though. Not close. But he IS a great, athletic player. He just lacks the mind set to be a true # 1 scorer and shot taker.


For every game I've seen Iggy attempt say 17-20 FG attempts. He's followed it up by 3 to 4 straight games where he doesn't even attempt more than 6 a game. You cannot have your franchise player doing that.


I'm not saying I want him to ever be another Iverson, or Arenas. Hell I've seen Ivy hoist up more than 20 FG attempts ina single quarter....several times. But we do need either a true threat as a # 1 option. Or we need Iggy to finally be a little more selfish.


But hey, if Detroit wants to double, and triple-team Iggy to stop him,,,fine. So far it has worked GREAT....for us



Keep up the good work Detroit!

[Fire BK]

It doesn't change my opinion on Iggy, no. It just confirms my position all along: (1) That this team is stacked at the SF position, and (2) that Stefanski's greatest asset going into the summer remain Iggy's S+T rights.

[PHILLYLOVE]

I agree that iggy is a perfect #3, and a solid #2, and a great role player...but he wants #1 money!!! this series is proving that we should not pay him that...and some1 will, so let's hope it's not us. While he is seeing doulbe nad triple teams, which are frustrating him, 2 points come to mind:
1. a player who deserves 57 million can figure out how to get past the double or triple teams and
2. he wasnt even covered on the missed dunk, and that's just rediculous...he's too scared

the youngest player in playoffs isnt scared a bit, and the supposed 57 milion dollar man is ****ing bricks

[bernal100]

I think " Franchise " money or Max money should only be given to either a true go-to guy who wants and CAN be the leader. Or someone who's personality transends his game. Someone who will bring fans in, make alot of money for the team through endorsments, and be a multi-All Star. And as much as I DO Love Iggy, he is not that player. Arguments by posters who say Iggy should get that cause of what Dalembert got long ago, or what other stiffs in the league are getting is not the point. Nor should it. I do think a starting point of 10 million, maybe 11 tops is WAY more than fair enough to Iggy. Plus he has to understand that it's not like he will get any other larger offer in free agency. So the sixers have all the power. And trust me, Iggy will NOT accept the QO. He would lose over 5 + million next year. And he would still be in the same boat next off-season. He may be free to sign anywhere else without Philly having a right to match.


But still no teams will have anything close to even 12 to 13 million that Iggy may want. So Iggy will understand this, and he will re-sign at around 10-11 million a year.

[Mozy-76er Fan]

I LOVE iggy. I couple of bad games doesn't change what he has done the past 4 seasons. Look at the big picture and his full resume when making an evaluation of a guy, not just some recent bad games. Prince is a great defender and Detroit is double teaming AI2. Iggy needs to learn from this. he needs to not force his shots and get his teammates involved when they shutting him down. He did that sometimes. No doubt he'll grow from this and be stronger then ever. I hope Iggy is a sixer for life.

[curtainz]

Hey at least he made his free throws tonight...if he was so scared I'm sure he would've missed some. Iggy can continue to "suck" as long as we keep winning.

[ahwi_quacoe]

Is this a trick question ?

[ITK9]

No.We always knew that he is not a legitimate 1st option.The diference between this games and season games is that he is guarded by Tyshun Prince(top 5 perimtere defender imo) and he is always doubled.Let's not forget that Iggy really played for the team last night.Yes he didn't hit shots but had some assits, forced some turnovers and played solid D.

[Pure Hatred]

Nope, he's still a young, versatile swing with potential to be a #2 on a contending team. Right now he's a 2 on a PO team, 3/4 on a championship team.

He'd do much better in the playoffs with say, Duncan and Ginobili next to him, or Dirk and Kidd, or AI and Melo, or Kobe and Gasol etc. He's basically being guarded as a #1, which he's not, and he's being shown up in the POs for it. Nothing has changed in my eyes, he's a still keeper. Resign him, ES.

[SendEm]

One thing about players that have "it" is that when the double team isn't present, when their single defender isn't in good position, THEY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT AND PUNISH THE OPPONENT'S MISTAKE MAKING THEM REMEMBER WHY THEY HAVE THEIR BEST DEFENDER AND DOUBLE TEAM ON THIS PLAYER WITH "it"...Iggy hasn't been taking advantage of his opportunities. The open shots and dunks that he's had have resulted in missed opportunities. He missed a fast break dunk and dropped an alley oop pass from Willie Green that he should have caught even if it didn't result in a dunk.

Iggy is very scared and out of is regular season element. Missed wide open shots, airballs, HORRIBLE passes. He is a mistake waiting to happen right now. He has turned back into the player that he was when Iverson was here but NOW he is under the impression that he is SUPPOSE to take shots. We knew back then that he wasn't a shot maker and if he ended the game with 11 points 7 rebounds 3 steals and 5 assists we were VERY happy with his play. Well that's what Iguodala is and will always be in the NBA...

perimeter players that make $57+ million dollars/5yrs are suppose to be able to consistently take advantage of opportunities and not be inhibited by fear of failure like Iggy has shown in the playoffs.

[SendEm]

One thing that the casual basketball fan will NEVER be able to discern is that Iguodala is only effective in the middle of the floor WITH THE BALL IN HIS HANDS. That's why he has been completely ineffective with being a complimentary player this playoff series because Detroit is double teaming him 90% of the time he gets the ball IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FLOOR.How can you be an effective complimentary player next to let's say Tim Duncan and Tony Parker if you CAN'T SCORE FROM THE WINGS OR FROM THE THREE POINT LINE? What coach is going to put the ball in the hands of Andre Iguodala in the middle f the floor over Tony Parker? Iggy couldn't even get on the floor for New Orleans with the MVP candidate Chris Paul dominating defenses with his MIDDLE OF THE FLOOR PENETRATION PASSING AND SCORING.

The reason why Iguodala's numbers SHOT UP once Iverson got traded was because Iggy was allowed to dominate the ball in the middle of the court in the place of Iverson alternating that playmaking role with Andre Miller. Iggy is the direct equivalent of Boris Diaw when Amare was hurt. In both cases their team had placed both of their weird skill sets in a position to succeed. In Diaw's case when Amare came back he no longer had the same plays on the block called for him and the Suns no longer gave him the ball on the perimeter with playmaking responsibilities. In Iggy's case Detroit is running him out of the only area of the floor that he is effective in, THE MIDDLE. Both of those guys are niche players. They DO NOT fit in with every team at the same level of effectiveness that they have shown statistically at certain points of their careers because that amount of effectiveness requires special treatment and placement within a team's offense.

Iggy and Diaw both are the same sort of player to me. To get the MOST out of them they both need to handle the basketball as if they are superstars or point guards. You can't win a championship with those two players handling the basketball for your team. Both of them are GARBAGE as off the ball finishers/shooters. But again the casual NBA fan AKA Iggy stan can not discern this. The casual fan just will assume that Iggy's 19ppg can translate to being a VERY good 3rd option if on a team with 2 better players. Iggy was once a 3rd option here and he sucked as a third option AND IN THAT SAME SEASON EXCELLED AS A FIRST OPTION. Is it not clear mr. casual NBA fan?

[freshie2]

Dr. SendEm Naismith has spoken...not sure what he really said, but he has spoken.

[dond]

Hasn't changed my opinion at all. He is what he is ... a good all-around player with no outside shot. If he could somehow find a way to rebuild his shooting technique to a more traditional method he may be able to improve in that area. Otherwise, I don't believe he will ever get much better at shooting the basketball.

[ducehere22]

hells to the NO...he almost had a triple double in the first game. he played a bad game in game 2 and then played well last night because he did not force it when his shot was off.

he is trying to keep his emotions in check and right now we are up 2-1 and i know he is a huge part of that.

is iggy the bball version of mcnabb for this team, all of sudden? he can never play well enough for people to love him...