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Now that the season is over whats next? 

Post#1 » by AILebronMelo » Sat Apr 26, 2008 11:42 pm

First thing first is fire Fatboy Karl

Hire Jeff Van Gundy

Resign Jr. Smith and make him a start.....I can not believe it took the Fat **** Karl so long to know that Jr. Smith is a star waiting to happen

Trade Camby he seen his better days

Hope that Melo Matures

Do not bring back Carter because he don't belong in the league
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Post#2 » by Patterns » Sat Apr 26, 2008 11:45 pm

Trade AI and bring in a real PG.
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Post#3 » by AILebronMelo » Sat Apr 26, 2008 11:49 pm

Patterns wrote:Trade AI and bring in a real PG.


AI is not the problem we started Carter all season long. Only a moron like George Karl would do such a thing.
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Post#4 » by Heir » Sat Apr 26, 2008 11:56 pm

The season isn't over. They just have to focus on getting the series back to LA.

A big mistake teams who are down 3-0 make is that they look at it as such a huge hurdle. "We have to win 3 straight"

Don't look at it that way. Just focus on getting it back to LA first, as I said, then in Game 5 you'll have some life. Take that one and you're right back in it.
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Post#5 » by OmniDEN » Sat Apr 26, 2008 11:57 pm

This team won't contend with JR starting at SG. It's not his fault, but AI/Smith/Melo will never work on the defensive end. I would try to get Hinrich, maybe even give Camby for him if Nene is able to start at C by season tip off.
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Post#6 » by JRMelo15 » Sat Apr 26, 2008 11:59 pm

Here is a start - Fire Karl and get a defender or two, even if this means trading Melo or AI.
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Post#7 » by Kevlo_911 » Sat Apr 26, 2008 11:59 pm

Bring in a defensive minded coach.
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Post#8 » by Patterns » Sun Apr 27, 2008 12:03 am

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AI is not the problem we started Carter all season long. Only a moron like George Karl would do such a thing.

No. The reason why you guys don't move the ball and play 1v1 is because of AI and you guys don't have a real PG there. AI dribbles and dribbles. He's a scorer at heart and he'll always be one.

Carter is crap.

You guys need someone like Kirk Hinrich or TJ Ford.
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Post#9 » by cavsfan_osiris » Sun Apr 27, 2008 12:10 am

Patterns wrote:You guys need someone like Kirk Hinrich or TJ Ford.


I agree that Iverson is the problem, but those names you suggested made me throw up in my mouth.
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Post#10 » by AILebronMelo » Sun Apr 27, 2008 12:15 am

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No. The reason why you guys don't move the ball and play 1v1 is because of AI and you guys don't have a real PG there. AI dribbles and dribbles. He's a scorer at heart and he'll always be one.

Carter is crap.

You guys need someone like Kirk Hinrich or TJ Ford.


Its sad that you can see it, I can see it and everyone can see that Carter is crap. I think Hinrich would be perfect to start with AI and Melo. Although I would like Artest on this team but AI at the point full time is a bad idea. I thought even getting Delonte West would have been good for this team.
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Post#11 » by ambiglight » Sun Apr 27, 2008 12:22 am

hope AI opts out.

fire karl

get rid of camby.

start JR.


get a real PG

get a big man that contributes on both sides of the floor.


between those six things, this team will have a better chance.
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Post#12 » by Ballin02 » Sun Apr 27, 2008 12:27 am

I have never seen a player that is more scapegoated the Iverson. Any problems lets just point to Iverson...

The gas prices are at their highest.... its Iversons fault.

There is world hunger....its Iversons fault.

Josh Howard admitted to smoking weed in the off season...its Iversons fault.

Give it a rest already. Iverson certainly has his faults, but he is not the main problem with this team. This team is to complex to just point the finger at one person. If you trade Iverson, you'll still have about 3 or 4 shoot first players on that team. There is no ball movement, period. Last game the Nuggets only had 12 asst and Iverson had 6 of those. So if we are going to talk about ball movement, lets talk about everyone. The team started off today with some decent ball movement and then completely forgot about it.
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Post#13 » by Ballin02 » Sun Apr 27, 2008 12:29 am

AILebronMelo wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Its sad that you can see it, I can see it and everyone can see that Carter is crap. I think Hinrich would be perfect to start with AI and Melo. Although I would like Artest on this team but AI at the point full time is a bad idea. I thought even getting Delonte West would have been good for this team.


Somewhere Ron Artest is laughing his @ss off right now. :noway:
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Post#14 » by el loco » Sun Apr 27, 2008 12:33 am

Ballin02 wrote:I have never seen a player that is more scapegoated the Iverson. Any problems lets just point to Iverson...

The gas prices are at their highest.... its Iversons fault.

There is world hunger....its Iversons fault.

Josh Howard admitted to smoking weed in the off season...its Iversons fault.

Give it a rest already. Iverson certainly has his faults, but he is not the main problem with this team. This team is to complex to just point the finger at one person. If you trade Iverson, you'll still have about 3 or 4 shoot first players on that team. There is no ball movement, period. Last game the Nuggets only had 12 asst and Iverson had 6 of those. So if we are going to talk about ball movement, lets talk about everyone. The team started off today with some decent ball movement and then completely forgot about it.


You have got Lakers fans pointing out the same thing. I don't blame Iverson or Melo for this series, but it is evident that Melo and Iverson don't compliment one another at all. One or both of them needs to find a new home. I don't really care which one it is, but one or the other needs to go.
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Post#15 » by AILebronMelo » Sun Apr 27, 2008 12:37 am

Do Melo know how to pass the ball? He seems to get uneasy everytime he sees a double team and forces alot of shots. AI went back to trying to play AND1 streetball **** sad effort.
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Post#16 » by Patterns » Sun Apr 27, 2008 12:38 am

Ballin02 wrote:I have never seen a player that is more scapegoated the Iverson. Any problems lets just point to Iverson...

The gas prices are at their highest.... its Iversons fault.

There is world hunger....its Iversons fault.

Josh Howard admitted to smoking weed in the off season...its Iversons fault.

Give it a rest already. Iverson certainly has his faults, but he is not the main problem with this team. This team is to complex to just point the finger at one person. If you trade Iverson, you'll still have about 3 or 4 shoot first players on that team. There is no ball movement, period. Last game the Nuggets only had 12 asst and Iverson had 6 of those. So if we are going to talk about ball movement, lets talk about everyone. The team started off today with some decent ball movement and then completely forgot about it.

AI is your problem on offense. Yes, you guys score a lot but against a good defensive team or teams that are focused in the playoffs, they can pick you guys apart.

The reason why you guys have Carter in there is so you guys can have a real PG but the problem is that on the defensive end, both of them are way undersized.

That's why AI is the problem. He's a liability on offense and defense.
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Post#17 » by Ballin02 » Sun Apr 27, 2008 12:47 am

el loco wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



You have got Lakers fans pointing out the same thing. I don't blame Iverson or Melo for this series, but it is evident that Melo and Iverson don't compliment one another at all. One or both of them needs to find a new home. I don't really care which one it is, but one or the other needs to go.


I don't know el loco, I would still like to see these two with a new Coach before they blow everything up. Thats just me. My point was people saying Iverson was the sole problem and if you move him, everything will be perfectly fine. No it won't. That team has quiet a few issues to work out. People talk about Iversons dribbling, which at some points is annoying, but there is hardly anyone moving around on that team. They just stand there waiting for him to make a move, instead of cutting to the basket and moving. I have never seen anything like this.

But if one needs to go, i'd rather it be Iverson. I want to see him on a team contending untill he retires. No need for him to stay around on a team that doesn't seem 100% commited to winning. Hopefully that team can work some things out, but with some of the moves they have made this season (allowing Steve Blake to walk, not getting Artest, allowing Karl to start AC almost all season although Chucky has more experience and so on) I just don't know.
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Post#18 » by Ballin02 » Sun Apr 27, 2008 12:51 am

Patterns wrote:-= original quote snipped =-


AI is your problem on offense. Yes, you guys score a lot but against a good defensive team or teams that are focused in the playoffs, they can pick you guys apart.

The reason why you guys have Carter in there is so you guys can have a real PG but the problem is that on the defensive end, both of them are way undersized.

That's why AI is the problem. He's a liability on offense and defense.


I'll give you that Iverson can be a liability on defense, mainly do to his size. But that team has a lot more problems on offense then just Iverson. They have been discussed over and over on these forums. So you just coming in here saying "Iverson is the main problem, get rid of him and you'll be okay" is a lie. That team has a lot to work on when it comes to offense (and obviously defense)...Iversons not the only one. Which was the point.
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Post#19 » by Buckeye-NBAFan » Sun Apr 27, 2008 12:53 am

Heir wrote:A big mistake teams who are down 3-0 make is that they look at it as such a huge hurdle. "We have to win 3 straight"



I think the biggest mistake that teams who go down 3-0 make is... going down 3-0. After that point, it's not about one game at a time. The other team is clearly superior. It doesn't matter what the team down 3-0 does.
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Post#20 » by Ballito » Sun Apr 27, 2008 12:55 am

Kevlo_911 wrote:Bring in a defensive minded coach.


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