Eddie House is a scorer and gives us a lift ....Doc wake up!

[accelerator]

Man after a great year and a lift off the bench - Eddie House is not playing and it's killing me - when we're behind- we need him so badly for a scoring lift -quick shots and quick baskets- and please PJBrown over Leon- I swear Doc is losing it already- we can not afford these blunders in round 2.

[screwedupmaniac]

agreed...where the heck has he been?? he was our solution at PG all season, and suddenly he's our resident bench warmer. he's ticked, and he should be.

this whole game has been a load of BS. definitely THE worst reffed game i've seen all year. what was with that whole counting down the shot clock instead of taking the time needed in order to fix it like they magically did with 7 minutes left in the 4th quarter?

gotta hand it to the hawks though...since when does josh smith nail fadeaway threes?

[Tricky Ricky]

Docs usual playoff coaching, I wish he was fired last season, while Im not worried about this series I am truly worried about the ECF or Finals with Doc as our coach

[accelerator]

yeah I just can't see why Eddie is a becnh bum after 66 wins with him- he used to cheer like mad wave the towel and come in and get 10 fast points all the time - awesome guy off the bench--- and now nothing, nothing at all- weird, he earned his time - I don't like it one bit!

[dwestside]

It's really unfair to give Doc ZERO slack and expect him to have the foresight to know Sam wouldn't be hitting his shots, that Leon would have a poor game (he almost NEVER has a poor game). It's pretty easy to say so after the fact.

This was a poor performance from everybody. I really can't see a tangible scapegoat. They all have a share in the blame.

EDIT:

As a matter of fact, I'd say games one and two worked pretty well wouldn't you? All Doc did was throw the same group of guys out there that had worked before; can you honestly blame him for that?

[screwedupmaniac]

i'm not ready to start wailing about how doc shoulda been fired last season...remember what's been accomplished thus far this season. what i saw was a stagnant offense that refused to move actively off the ball like it has all season; a big part of this had to do with eddie house not seeing the light of day until it was too late.

another big part was our laxadazical defence...cassell can't stay in front of his man to save his life, and powe played Center for 2 minutes when Perk had his bloody nose, and then we didn't see him anymore.

and for the love of all that's sacred, WHY couldn't we just play man to man??? we had to keep doubling up on Joe Johnson, only to leave a wide open horford...or we'd double horford, only to leave a wide open joe johnson! we've played man to man D just fine up until we decided we had to double everyone who touched the ball.

maybe this is a good thing...maybe this reminds our guys that they can't just trip through the playoffs half-assing it on either end of the floor. this hawks team isn't for real yet, but they can turn it on and have a good game at any point, just as easily as we can come in unprepared and give up a game we should have won.

[threrf23]

I don't like PJ Brown and Cassell in the game really unless alternatives aren't working....Cassell was definitely needed tonight against the press, but I definitely prefer to see both Powe and Baby get minutes before PJ.

I missed the first half, but no TA in the second, maybe I'll have to pull up the thread re: his comments on getting less minutes, but he brings too much of an all around game to sit if we want to win. Don't necessarily mind the loss tonight because I consider these exhibition games to some extent, but when we want to win it won't cut it.

[Tricky Ricky]

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What would you have liked to see different? You said in another thread "God no to Eddie House," and that you "wouldn't mind" seeing Tony Allen ...

Who else is there exactly?

I wasnt complaining about Eddie House I just thought he sat Rondo down in the 4th too long.

[dwestside]

Docs usual playoff coaching, I wish he was fired last season, while Im not worried about this series I am truly worried about the ECF or Finals with Doc as our coach

What would you have liked to see different? You said in another thread "God no to Eddie House," and that you "wouldn't mind" seeing Tony Allen ...

Who else is there exactly?

[kmgarnett21]

i agree...house needs more PT & why did leon only play like 3 mins? why is pj playin so much? so what if its playoffs, leon is better than pj.

cassell was horrible tonite. big baby played solid, but we need powe in there more than pj. & we need house in there when cassell plays like that.

[Tricky Ricky]

EDIT:

As a matter of fact, I'd say games one and two worked pretty well wouldn't you? All Doc did was throw the same group of guys out there that had worked before; can you honestly blame him for that?

Yes, but when something isnt working you have to change it which is my problem with Doc

[Red2]

if cassells shot his falling leave him in. if it isn't then play house more minutes. pj brown isn't giving us much I'd prefer to see powe and baby

[return2glory]

I like House. But House got hurt in the last week of the season and Cassell was amazing. Cassell played well in games 1 and 2. No one was complaining then.

Rondo is going to get his 30-35 minutes. After than, there isn't much time left at the PG spot. It's either Cassell or House.

One thing I don't understand is what happened with Powe's playing time? I like BBD a lot but Powe was playing better than him the last 2 months of the season.

[cisco]

I like House. But House got hurt in the last week of the season and Cassell was amazing. Cassell played well in games 1 and 2. No one was complaining then.

Rondo is going to get his 30-35 minutes. After than, there isn't much time left at the PG spot. It's either Cassell or House.

One thing I don't understand is what happened with Powe's playing time? I like BBD a lot but Powe was playing better than him the last 2 months of the season.

Doc put Powe in and he wasn't effect. BBD got more time because he was more effective in last night's game than Powe was.

Doc coached pretty bad too, imo. It seemed like Paul was on the bench for half the 4th quarter (in the playoffs? ). House should be the backup pg and Cassell should play when Rondo and/or House is not effective. The C's got the 66-16 record with House as the backup pg. It seems foolish to change the winning formula in the playoffs, imo. I know Cassell has shot well a few games, but he does stifle the offense if his shot is not falling, because all he does is shoot and that is not what was needed. The C's needed to move the ball and find the open man, which Cassell doesn't like to do, he'd rather shoot it.

PLAY EDDIE HOUSE!

[tlee324]

Makes sense to me that if Joe Johnson is hot from the outside and Ray's cold playing 41 minutes, it wouldn't have hurt to see if a firecracker like House could have neutralized the situation with some offensive production... and if Perkins is getting dominated, then a powerhouse like Powe would have been a much better option... but 3 minutes for Powe? And hardly any for anyone else that could have helped out? That's not the way we've seen this team play all season, and I'm not sure it's a good idea to change things up at this point. Utilize the weapons you got... You know what they say: if it ain't broke....

[UGA Hayes]

Can't really blame this on Doc as they just flat out played well. But if there is one adjustment he should have made it was realizing how bad Sam was playing. Also he needed to be a little quicker on his timeouts. But really this one is on the players more than anything.

[sully00]

This is a hindsight issue. I imagine that if Doc knew that Sam was going to impersonate Eddie House when he went in the game and start chucking as soon as he crossed half court then he would have played Eddie. But the whole point of having Sam and playing him was to get better ball movement and find better shots for everyone else not just take more jumpers.

Sam killed us, not by missing shots, but taking low percentage quick shots and missing them with nobody in position to rebound the ball.

As far as the front court goes outside of KG and Baby the other 3 did nothing on the glass. That was a pretty bull performance by Perk 2 boards and getting his ish blocked by a SF. He needs to play better.

[JoshB914]

We've been thrilled to see no House the first three games. That guy can absolutely light it up.

[MVP16]

I had similar feelings during the game. It was obvious from the start of the game that they had much more energy then we did. I feel that TA/House/Powe are our energy guys off the bench and could give us a good spark.

I understand going with Cassell at first, but when we were down double digits and Cassell played bad during the first half, I would have liked for Doc to put House out there to see if he's hot/cangive us a spark. House is a guy who can knock down a few 3s in a row if he's hot that night and that would have been huge for us.

I'm also slightly annoyed that Cassell/Brown seem to be our 7th/8th man off the bench after Posey. I understand moreso putting Cassell in there, but especially against a young/athletic team like the Hawks, I want to see a Powe/Big Baby front court which was pretty effective during the season giving us energy and getting offensive rebounds/loose balls. I don't think we've seen that front court so far except for maybe garbage time.

[tombattor]

I don't understand either. I thought House was playing much better than Cassell down the stretch. Why is Doc insisting on Sam, even when he's making atrocious decisions and playing in general like caca with Eddie House, a bonafide scorer on the bench?