Is Yao, Tmac, Melo and Iverson all top 15 players in the NBA

[Alex_De_Large]

Deron better than Baron? Deron had Boozer, who had Baron?

[sp6r=underrated]

Billups hahahahah i hope you are kidding me.

Per 36 Minutes, Pace Adjusted
PPG, APG, RPG, SPG, TOPG, EFG, TS, PER, +/-
McGrady: 23.34, 6.31, 5.53, 1.11, 2.74, 0.452, 0.487, 18.4, +1.6
Billups: 21.65, 8.70, 3.43, 1.60, 2.63, 0.526, 0.619, 23.6, +6.9

Seems pretty clear to me who the better player is. Billups nearly matches him in scoring, while destroying T-Mac in efficiency. He has a much larger plus/minus than T-Mac, has been a better playmaker. Really where's the argument. Oh yea, I forgot, the Old McGrady standby, a healthy T-Mac (which doesn't exist) is still a top 10 player. LOL.

[Alex_De_Large]

There is no way Billups can lead a team to win 22 in a row, no way, it's easy to be a leader when you have hamilton, prince, mcdyess and rasheed wallace playing with you.

the series against the sixers are proving that billups is an overrated player.

[OmniDEN]

Deron better than Baron? Deron had Boozer, who had Baron?

Grammar 101?

[TAI8]

Only Yao and AI. Mac is bad. Anthony is bad.

[Alex_De_Large]

yeah, and tony parker and ginobili are good lOL

[Storm Surge]

no way Billups is better than t-mac. He is not even a top 5 PG

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[TAI8]

Mac is running out of time and excuses. He desperately needs to advance past the first round. He plays with the best 5 in the game. It is a shame that he is a second round virgin.

Anthony is horrible. He doesn't rebound, can't play D, doesn't pass, looks for his points, plays with a HOF, a DPOY, and a former All-Star yet can't muster up a win against a Bynum-less Lakers. Not to mention the MSG incident and the DUI, he is still immature and has character issues. He is definitely not a player who I can entrust my franchise with. Denver should be a much better offensive team than what they are now. He is a second round virgin a la Mac.

[The_Believer]

1. Tim Duncan
2. LeBron James
3. Kevin Garnet
4. Kobe Bryant
5. Chris Paul
6. Yao Ming
7. Baron Davis
8. Tracy McGrady
9. Dwight Howard
10. Dwyane Wade
11. Dirk Nowitzki
12. Carlos Boozer
13. Steve Nash
14. Paul Pierce
15. Amare Stoudemire

39. Carmelo Anthony

If we're talking about the Baron that was there the first half of the year, the elite two-way, do-it-all player, then I completely agree he's top 10. But the way he played the last month of the season and when we needed him to play his best, that Baron doesn't belong in the top 10. But no matter what, I agree that he's a top 15-20 player. When he gets in the zone or is motivated, though, it's a completely different issue. Also, TMac is a little high considering his injuries this year, albeit he started the season off extremely well. And IMO KG > Duncan this year, although it's debatable.

[etopn23]

Mac is running out of time and excuses. He desperately needs to advance past the first round. He plays with the best 5 in the game. It is a shame that he is a second round virgin.

Anthony is horrible. He doesn't rebound, can't play D, doesn't pass, looks for his points, plays with a HOF, a DPOY, and a former All-Star yet can't muster up a win against a Bynum-less Lakers. Not to mention the MSG incident and the DUI, he is still immature and has character issues. He is definitely not a player who I can entrust my franchise with. Denver should be a much better offensive team than what they are now. He is a second round virgin a la Mac.

I didn't know Yao was playing right now. Yao came back from injury last season a shadow of himself during that series - and the Rockets had no bench. Now the Rockets have a bench but no Yao.

As for McGrady himself it's looking doubtful he'll ever be back in pre-05 shape. I'm not saying it's impossible, but DAMN look at his shot. lol

[Dirk_diggler_41]

6. Yao Ming
8. Tracy McGrady

Ming has missed too many games over the last three seasons. So has Tracy for that matter, but his 18.5 PER is what should keep him from being put on anyone's top ten list. Maybe we should discuss his terrible shooting this season, which has only gotten worse in the playoffs.

EIGHTH? C'mon!.

[Alex_De_Large]

He will be eight in MVP, mark my words.