What players could be on the move after 1st rd exits???

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Post#21 » by Ballings7 » Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:31 pm

Anticon wrote:If Josh Howard is traded I hope the Raps pick him up. He looks bad now, but he'd be a great addition to the team.


That would be an excellent spot for him and the kind of player Toronto is lacking on the wings, and Colangelo obviously knows how good he is (historically), from Phoenix.

Toronto would just need to get an above-average defensive helper at center to complement and help Bosh.

I don't know if Dallas is going to trade him based off of a bad 2nd half of the season with a new-look team. Maybe they won't see him as fit, though. And the marijuana stuff I don't see as a factor in anything.
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Post#22 » by Chubby Chaser » Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:11 pm

Dirk. He just can't get it done as the first option. He's better suited as the second option of a team. He's not a leader.
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Post#23 » by Derekman » Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:15 pm

I think Jose will get traded for a good second option while his value is sky high.
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Post#24 » by CITYOFANGELSX3 » Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:33 pm

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Post#25 » by conleyorbust » Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:44 pm

Chubby Chaser wrote:Dirk. He just can't get it done as the first option. He's better suited as the second option of a team. He's not a leader.


Have you watched the Mavs series any? Dirk has been awsome. How is it that Kidd is a "leader" and "tough" when he's been absolute garbage?

If Dirk can't be a first option in the league because he hasn't won a chip, only Tim Duncan and a healthy Wade can... maybe Billups.
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Post#26 » by Ballings7 » Mon Apr 28, 2008 11:44 pm

Dirk hasn't quite worked as first option because the right kind of defense is able to slow him down. Making him not at his best, which is scoring well... when he's not, his impact on the game drops off, and then the offensive ability to the rest of the team drops off. He hasn't had another top-level offensive player with him to draw enough attention, and have less of a gap from him to the other offensive options.

He doesn't have a post-game really, and with his mid-post and out game (various shooting or driving to the basket), mobile fowards + interior defense, bother his shots and get him off his game. He basically has a wing-player's game in a big man frame. Only he's not strong enough to have enough of an interior game, and just didn't develop one.

The Heat, Warrior series are two good and recent examples of the types of defense. Along with certain Spurs games in this decade. There are several other various games also (regular season and playoffs), where he's been slowed noticably by similar kinds of defensive strategies.

The defense played on him over the years has been the main reason for his failures in the playoffs, rather than his over-blown choking. Which has played a part to an extent, but much less than the defense played on him. This has gone overlooked a lot, because I think people don't pay attention enough to the defense, and want to get on a star player and call him a "choker". Collectively, Dirk's actually been a pretty clutch player. And of course there have been occasions where he just didn't get it done, with the defense not really playing a part.
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Post#27 » by Serpo » Tue Apr 29, 2008 12:20 am

If Dallas trades Dirk they basically have to completely rebuild ( hello lottery pick in 2010 :D ) . It's not like they can aquire a better franchise player then him realistically .

Dallas has to finally aquire somebody who is not a shooter and/or a defender . They rely too much on jumpshooting . I mean look at the team and tell me anybody who is not known for either jumpshooter or defense but not attacking the basket ?

The Nuggets have to trade Camby as long as people still think he would be that great of a defender ( and he really isn't ) .

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