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Post#21 » by Tommy Udo 6 » Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:34 am

Gooden is perfect for the Bulls. They needed a post scoring threat & got it. Gooden had about 8 double-doubles after the wallace trade.

I dont see either Gooden or Tyrus being trade to the W's or to anyone

Bulls would probably do Nocioni for Harrington
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Post#22 » by Sid the Squid » Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:38 am

Tommy Udo 6 wrote:Gooden is perfect for the Bulls. They needed a post scoring threat & got it. Gooden had about 8 double-doubles after the wallace trade.

I dont see either Gooden or Tyrus being trade to the W's or to anyone

Bulls would probably do Nocioni for Harrington
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Post#23 » by Chris Cohan » Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:53 am

Tommy Udo 6 wrote:Gooden is perfect for the Bulls. They needed a post scoring threat & got it. Gooden had about 8 double-doubles after the wallace trade.

I dont see either Gooden or Tyrus being trade to the W's or to anyone

Bulls would probably do Nocioni for Harrington


Wake me when they extend Gooden.
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Post#24 » by Sid the Squid » Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:55 am

Drew Baden had the magic fan base fooled to when he was 1st traded there...In fact, he had almost all of realgm fooled ...
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Post#25 » by Sleepy51 » Tue Apr 29, 2008 2:09 am

It was the constant verbal abuse from Lebron in the playoffs last year for blowing every single defensive assignment that woke me up I'd neve seen Lebron lose patience with a team mate before
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Post#26 » by Tommy Udo 6 » Tue Apr 29, 2008 2:30 am

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Wake me when they extend Gooden.


They may not - but what was the last expiring contract that the Bulls traded?

I cant remember.....

They do NOT trade expiring contracts - they let them expire.

That is why I confidently say: Gooden will probably not be traded.

(He went to El Cerrito High which i pass on my way to BART every day...)
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Post#27 » by Chris Cohan » Tue Apr 29, 2008 2:35 am

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They may not - but what was the last expiring contract that the Bulls traded?

I cant remember.....

They do NOT trade expiring contracts - they let them expire.

That is why I confidently say: Gooden will probably not be traded.

(He went to El Cerrito High which i pass on my way to BART every day...)


Gooden is supposed to be liquid and Paxson is not quite the man about town he was when he was diligently controlling the payroll in Chicago. Thomas and Gooden are absolutely on the block if they start talking to teams. Were you the one saying Joe Smith was not available?
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Post#28 » by Tommy Udo 6 » Tue Apr 29, 2008 2:48 am

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Gooden is supposed to be liquid and Paxson is not quite the man about town he was when he was diligently controlling the payroll in Chicago. Thomas and Gooden are absolutely on the block if they start talking to teams. Were you the one saying Joe Smith was not available?


I dont remember if Im said that. However, if Joe Smith is the price to dump Ben Wallace, it changes everything!!! Bulls would have done almost anything to dump Ben on someone else
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Post#29 » by Chris Cohan » Tue Apr 29, 2008 2:54 am

I thought that was a pretty great trade for the Bulls. I was really impressed they were able to move the contracts they did and get decent relief out of it. It's that move that also suggests the chain of command is a little different these days. Paxson has had all manner of rumor out about his skill and authority beyond mandated cap management but Wallace was his signing and Thomas was his draft day trade.

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Post#30 » by Tommy Udo 6 » Tue Apr 29, 2008 3:00 am

I'm sure the Bulls regret the Wallace signing - but no one gets all the decisions perfect.

Besides, Paxson was the Bulls radio announcer with absolutely no front office experience when he was hired. The wallace signing is probably his biggest blunder, but he got out of it without destroying the team.

I do not think Paxson or the Bulls regret the trade for Tyrus Thomas. The jury is still out on that one
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Post#31 » by Chris Cohan » Tue Apr 29, 2008 3:28 am

Thomas still has great value but it's never a good idea to try to make a high profile coaching hire and accompany the introductions with madates for player development and floor time. He's very raw and Noah is less so while bringing more size and a clearer position.

Depending upon who you guys hire to coach, Thomas may be most valuable as a trade chip for a more reliable/dominant point guard who can mask the scoring dearth up front by taking 18-20 shots a game next to Deng.

The Bulls were in on Garnett and Gasol, among others, but failed to pull the trigger. Your trigger man is on very thin ice whether you feel that to be the case or not.
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Post#32 » by Sid the Squid » Tue Apr 29, 2008 3:48 am

Bulls rival the clippers, magic, wolves and sonics for the worst set of gaurds in the league
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Post#33 » by old rem » Tue Apr 29, 2008 3:56 am

darobster17 wrote:If Nelly does return and the whatever player we get at #14th, I don't know if he will see any playing time under Nelly.

So under that assumption, why not deal the draft pick for someone that could give us some rebounding, shot-blocking and easy fast break points.

My proposed deal is to deal Harrington and Perovic to the Chicago Bulls for Tyrus Thomas and Drew Gooden. We might have to throw in our second rounder or future draft pick but still get to keep our #14th pick and get expiring contract in Gooden. Thomas I think could be a better fit and reminds me of Josh Smith/Marion type of player. Bellinelli becomes our sixth man.

If the W's are to makes strides as a team, they have to improve on the defensive end and get some athletic/physical type of players that are perfect for the uptempo style.

We use the Jrich TPE to get Duhon or better PG as our backup PG.

At #14th we take the best available player. I'd take Darrell Arthur or Donte Greene.

At #44th I'd take Joey Dorsey OR take a SG flyer like Sonny Weems/JR Giddens.

Duhon,Thomas and Gooden are going to provide more bench production than C.J.Watson,Barnes and Croshere.

BD/Duhon/Bellinelli
Ellis/Buki/Bellinelli/Weems or JR Giddens
SJAX/Thomas/Arthur or Greene
Gooden/Bwright/Arthur or Greene
Andre "Goose" Biedrins/Bwright/Dorsey

In terms of the free agent market I'd also like the W's to get Ryan Gomes.


If it's Noah rather than Thomas I'm interested. We HAVE a 210 lb "power" F to develop and he's got better instincts than Thomas. Still....IF Chi would do this---I'd probably grab it and then Swap Tyrus who has market value-for a guy I'd like better. Agree Gomes would be fine as a FA,or in a S+T (POB to Minny?)

Duhon-Gooden is a much more high$ bench than Barnes-Watson-etc.

As backup Centers....B Wright weighs 10 lb less than Pietrus while Dorsey is 6-9 with the offensive skills of Foyle. Watson is a real cost effective backup if we are still playing monta as #2 PG.
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Post#34 » by old rem » Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:04 am

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Well...if it's a lock we'd just waste the pick....but then again...B Wright is more polished than T Thomas,and B Wright hardly saw action.

Harrington is just a 2 yr guy now...there's little gain in expiring a starter just 1 year sooner when the replacement is playing few minutes.
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Post#35 » by darobster17 » Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:14 am

Rem, I highly doubt Noah is going to on the trading block but I know he did mouth off or got into with one of the assistant head coaches so weird things could happen.

Now that Silas wants to return to the league and coach...I'd want to know whats going to happen with Nelly.

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