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Post#1 » by Durbanfish4 » Tue Apr 29, 2008 5:00 pm

Bogut is absolutely right about him not playing with a true point guard, while with the Bucks, until Ramon Sessions was allowed to play...interesting stuff. Glad to see Bogut is looking forward to working with Skiles.

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Post#2 » by 75totheMACCfund » Tue Apr 29, 2008 5:05 pm

Bogut also had strong praise for rookie point guard Ramon Sessions, who had a chance to play late in the season and produced a game-winning shot at Washington and a franchise-record 24 assists in a 151-135 loss to the Bulls.

"He was a true point guard," Bogut said. "I haven't played with a true point guard since I've been here, really. I think he did a great job of trying to find teammates first and shoot second. Hopefully, he'll keep that mentality. I think he definitely deserves everything he got."

Sessions piled up some of his statistics in high-scoring games where little defense was being played, but Bogut did not think the numbers were imaginary.

"Obviously, his call-up came when we weren't making the playoffs, and it's a bit easier to go out there when there's no pressure on you and just go out and play," Bogut said. "Still, what he did with 20-and-20 showed a lot, and I think he established himself as a guy who is going to be in the rotation next year, there's no doubt.

"I just keep telling him, 'Don't work on that jump shot too much. Keep distributing that ball.' We've got enough great shooters on this team; we don't need another one. I think he understands that."



pretty strong words for sessions and against Mo. It's pretty obvious that Mo isn't a true point guard, but he could have said something positive about Mo, he might have in the email, but it not being there does not seem to give Mo a strong bout of confidence from Bogut
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Post#3 » by carmelbrownqueen » Tue Apr 29, 2008 5:05 pm

I will copy the article in here for those who can't click on links at work:

Bogut on board with Skiles' hiring
By Charles F. Gardner
Tuesday, Apr 29 2008, 11:31 AM

Andrew Bogut is enjoying some vacation time in Croatia, where he is visiting family and friends after the long National Basketball Association season.

But it's fair to say the Bucks center is keeping up with current events.

Bogut had this reaction to the hiring of former Chicago Bulls coach Scott Skiles as the Bucks' new coach: "I'm very excited about coach; I know he will be tough," the Australian wrote in an e-mail response. "I think he will be the leader we need to set things straight and hold everyone accountable."

Skiles signed a four-year, fully guaranteed $18 million contract to lead the Bucks, after coaching the Bulls for four-plus seasons. The Bulls made the playoffs in three straight seasons under Skiles, who was fired last December after Chicago got off to a sluggish start.

Skiles coached many times against the Central Division rival Bucks and had a chance to see Bogut progress from his rookie season to his third year, when he averaged 14.3 points and 9.8 rebounds while playing a team-leading 78 games.

"He's doing what you would want any young big guy to do, showing constant improvement," Skiles said. "Young big guys like that, you worry if they seem to be plateauing.

"He doesn't seem to be doing anything like that. It's logical to assume he's going to continue to get better."

Bogut is always a tough critic on himself, and it's clear he also expects improvement.

"My second half of the year was great," Bogut said in a season-ending interview. "My first half was definitely disappointing. I think my second half, I forgot about all the off-court distractions and all the things that were bothering me my first two years.

"I just went out there and played hard. Obviously, you're going to have bad games. You probably have five or 10 bad games in an NBA season. If I can limit it to five next year, I'll be very happy with that. These last 20 games, it was tough going out there, knowing the games were kind of pointless in a way. I used these as motivation to prove myself, that I could definitely be a focal point of the offense and be a team guy first."

Bogut said he sees plenty of potential in frontcourt teammate Yi Jianlian, who went through ups and downs during his rookie year.

"To have him at the 4 (power forward) and shoot the ball the way he does, that's his main role, and I think he's done a great job with it," Bogut said. "I think he can spread the defense. But once he gets more aggressive, I think he needs to work on putting the ball on the floor and trying to get to the basket.

"He's as athletic as anybody I've seen. Ballhandling will be a key factor for him, working in the off-season. If he gets that down, he'll be a much more productive guy. Guys are scouting him and trying to make him put the ball on the floor.

"It's kind of tough, adjusting to NBA guys who are much quicker than you're used to. It's just getting strong hands, and I think he'll be fine. His work ethic is unbelievable, and he'll be in the gym every day this summer."

Bogut also had strong praise for rookie point guard Ramon Sessions, who had a chance to play late in the season and produced a game-winning shot at Washington and a franchise-record 24 assists in a 151-135 loss to the Bulls.

"He was a true point guard," Bogut said. "I haven't played with a true point guard since I've been here, really. I think he did a great job of trying to find teammates first and shoot second. Hopefully, he'll keep that mentality. I think he definitely deserves everything he got."

Sessions piled up some of his statistics in high-scoring games where little defense was being played, but Bogut did not think the numbers were imaginary.

"Obviously, his call-up came when we weren't making the playoffs, and it's a bit easier to go out there when there's no pressure on you and just go out and play," Bogut said. "Still, what he did with 20-and-20 showed a lot, and I think he established himself as a guy who is going to be in the rotation next year, there's no doubt.

"I just keep telling him, 'Don't work on that jump shot too much. Keep distributing that ball.' We've got enough great shooters on this team; we don't need another one. I think he understands that."
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Post#4 » by 0BobLobLaw0 » Tue Apr 29, 2008 5:06 pm

Would Mo take that as a jab? He has to know he isn't a true point guard.
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Post#5 » by carmelbrownqueen » Tue Apr 29, 2008 5:11 pm

Not a ringing endorsement of CV or Mo in my opinion. Seems comfortable with Yi and Sessions, and also seems to have respect for how hard both guys work.
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Post#6 » by carmelbrownqueen » Tue Apr 29, 2008 5:21 pm

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Bogut also had strong praise for rookie point guard Ramon Sessions, who had a chance to play late in the season and produced a game-winning shot at Washington and a franchise-record 24 assists in a 151-135 loss to the Bulls.

"He was a true point guard," Bogut said. "I haven't played with a true point guard since I've been here, really. I think he did a great job of trying to find teammates first and shoot second. Hopefully, he'll keep that mentality. I think he definitely deserves everything he got."

Sessions piled up some of his statistics in high-scoring games where little defense was being played, but Bogut did not think the numbers were imaginary.

"Obviously, his call-up came when we weren't making the playoffs, and it's a bit easier to go out there when there's no pressure on you and just go out and play," Bogut said. "Still, what he did with 20-and-20 showed a lot, and I think he established himself as a guy who is going to be in the rotation next year, there's no doubt.

"I just keep telling him, 'Don't work on that jump shot too much. Keep distributing that ball.' We've got enough great shooters on this team; we don't need another one. I think he understands that."



pretty strong words for sessions and against Mo. It's pretty obvious that Mo isn't a true point guard, but he could have said something positive about Mo, he might have in the email, but it not being there does not seem to give Mo a strong bout of confidence from Bogut
With the way Mo acted this season, I don't expect very many positive words from Bogut, other players or the organization in general.
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Post#7 » by LISTEN2JAZZ » Tue Apr 29, 2008 5:37 pm

75 wrote:pretty strong words for sessions and against Mo.
And equally strong against Blake and Ford.
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Post#8 » by carmelbrownqueen » Tue Apr 29, 2008 5:38 pm

Very true.. not a ringing endorsement of them either.
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Post#9 » by paul » Tue Apr 29, 2008 5:40 pm

The same thing happened in that radio interview when Bogut said he wanted Sessions to get some minutes, suddenly everyone on here jumped on him saying he was bagging the hell out of mo, when really it was just praise for Sessions. I don't see anything in this article that is a slap in the face for Mo, we know he's not a true PG, he knows he's not a true PG, everyone knows he's not a true PG.

I'm not sure why it is that everyone looks for these insults between players, the fact that Bogut praised Sessions and Yi does not mean he was therefore abusing Mo and CV.

Also that last line about the bucks having 'enough great shooters' could be seen as being a compliment to Redd and Mo, the most obvious candidates.
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Post#10 » by showtimesam » Tue Apr 29, 2008 5:45 pm

Yup,
While Ford was a pure pg his first season with the bucks, he was basically MO Williams without a good jumpshot in his season with Bogut..
except his attitude seemed worse (on the court at least)

I really hope Hammond can make the moves to ditch that backcourt and surround Bogut/Yi/Sessions with the right mix of leadership, defense, and of course talent.
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Post#11 » by jerrod » Tue Apr 29, 2008 5:45 pm

paul wrote:
Also that last line about the bucks having 'enough great shooters' could be seen as being a compliment to Redd and Mo, the most obvious candidates.


i hope that's not his way of telling us that he won't be working on his jumper this summer
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Post#12 » by LUKE23 » Tue Apr 29, 2008 5:50 pm

showtimesam wrote:Yup,
While Ford was a pure pg his first season with the bucks, he was basically MO Williams without a good jumpshot in his season with Bogut..
except his attitude seemed worse (on the court at least)

I really hope Hammond can make the moves to ditch that backcourt and surround Bogut/Yi/Sessions with the right mix of leadership, defense, and of course talent.


Might as well add Redd to that list, because he's not getting moved, at least not this offseason.

I think right now the four guys that I would be shocked not to be here next year are Sessions/Redd/Yi/Bogut. A trade of anyone else really wouldn't shock me (although I'd be pretty amazed and stupified if anyone took on Gadzuric and/or Simmons deal). I think they give Redd one year to work in Skiles system to see how he does. If he has major issues with it, he's gone next offseason. Personally, I want him gone now but just don't see it happening.
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Post#13 » by LISTEN2JAZZ » Tue Apr 29, 2008 5:53 pm

Luke23 wrote:Might as well add Redd to that list, because he's not getting moved, at least not this offseason.
Based on what? Nobody told me that.
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Post#14 » by Fort Minor » Tue Apr 29, 2008 5:58 pm

adamcz wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

And equally strong against Blake and Ford.


I was thinking that, too.

I don't really like Bogut telling Sessions to not work on his jumper. I mean, he can have a really good jump shot and still not shoot very often. It's a great asset to anybody's game.

But I guess as long as he's working his ass off on his own jumper, I'll be happy.
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Post#15 » by LUKE23 » Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:01 pm

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I was thinking that, too.

I don't really like Bogut telling Sessions to not work on his jumper. I mean, he can have a really good jump shot and still not shoot very often. It's a great asset to anybody's game.

But I guess as long as he's working his ass off on his own jumper, I'll be happy.


I think the coaches will have more input than Bogut. I'm sure Sessions will be working on his jumper this offseason.
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Post#16 » by fam3381 » Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:03 pm

Fort Minor wrote:I don't really like Bogut telling Sessions to not work on his jumper. I mean, he can have a really good jump shot and still not shoot very often. It's a great asset to anybody's game.


I assumed the part about him not working on his jump shot was a joke, even if the idea of wanting him to stay a passer is genuine.
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Post#17 » by MickeyDavis » Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:06 pm

Hard to argue with anything he said. It's unusual to call out a teammate like that, even indirectly but it's also refreshing. Although it could be a bit awkward if Mo is still on the team in October. 8)
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Post#18 » by Fort Minor » Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:08 pm

LUKE23 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



I think the coaches will have more input than Bogut. I'm sure Sessions will be working on his jumper this offseason.


That's true. Though Bogut seems like he's becoming like a "big brother mentor guy" to Sessions.

I probably took that too seriously, but whether Bogut's joking or not, his, um, "bias" seems to be quite obvious. :D
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Post#19 » by carmelbrownqueen » Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:09 pm

I don't think that Bogut was joking whatsoever about not wanting Sessions to work to hard on his jumpshot. I think he fears that Sessions will be so concerned with hitting and making jumpers that he will lose his desire to be a pass first guy. I'm guessing that all Bogut meant was he sees more value in Sessions as a passer than as yet another shooter on this team.
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Post#20 » by Cold Crush 24 » Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:25 pm

Wait until Earl the squirrel Boykins hears about THIS! Thats a fight I'd pay to see.
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