Carmelo and first round exits

[TAI8]

Overrated

[Basti]

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Please steve nash wasn't as good as he is today. NVE? dude is a choke artist going back to his LA days. KG failed to make the playoffs with Cassell Spreewell & Wally in the same year Kobe made it with Kwame Luke & Smush as starters.

umm... no. get your facts straight. KG missed the playoffs in 2005 with that squad and IIRC kobe missed the PO in that year too. the next year we had starters such as marko jaric and trenton hassel along with olowokandi and later blount...

[Blame Rasho]

umm... no. get your facts straight. KG missed the playoffs in 2005 with that squad and IIRC kobe missed the PO in that year too. the next year we had starters such as marko jaric and trenton hassel along with olowokandi and later blount...

[LakersSquad]

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You want to discount his numbers?

So we want to discount the amount of talent Dirk's team has as well?

You want to ignore the team turmoil that KG faced after that season... much like Kobe when Shaq left.

If you want to say you hate KG... then say it.

wtf are you talking about? Your argument is all over the place.

[bill curley II]

A lot of the blame, unfairly or not, does go on Melo. If he's going to be the franchise player, he's got to set a better example both on defense and offense. People got on Kobe after Shaq left for not sharing the ball, not trusting his teammates, being selfish. Melo probably holds the ball the most in the league out of anyone, and that sort of one of one offense gets contagious with his teammates.

He's more than a capable passer too, he had that unbelivable bounce pass last night to Najera or Kleiza I think, and that's actually something I've seen him do a lot in highlights. But Denver, just like LA, is never gonna get past the 1st round until their star player sets a better example of how to work as a team both on offense and defense. He's had plenty of good talent around him so it's really not a KG or Tmac type situation.

[NetsForce]

All Carmelo has to do is get out of the Western Conference.

[Blame Rasho]

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wtf are you talking about? Your argument is all over the place.

I posted his numbers in that Dallas series( Better than anyones stats this year)... you ignored them...

I pointed towards difference in teammates they had.. you ignored them.

You want to ignore the turmoil(contract disputes with the team) KG faced after the WCF... I pointed out that Kobe faced the exact same thing and failed to make the playoffs.

If you don't even acknowledge these things... fine... I just assume that you don't like him for whatever reason.

[pikimagic]

try to play tmac in the first round......you know 100%sure you are going to the second round

[Ballings7]

Yeah, Denver/Houston need to meet up

One will be even worse off, and another will get their glory

[nycballer718]

im surprised people are forgetting the fact that not only does melo continue to lose in the first round , he has played horrible in every single one of them shooting under 40 % from the field ... i mean if he play's good and nuggets still lose then you can't put the entire blame on him but he's played terrible now for the 5th straight year in the playoffs.

[Ballings7]

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The Nuggets were the worst team in the playoffs... teams like the Grizz and CLippers were jocking to play them in the first round.

Yes.

I don't even think the Clippers were the better team. They played more like a team and had better team chemistry though.

What? The Clippers were the better team.

They had better defense, better offense, better chemistry. Brand, Kaman, Maggette, Mobley, Ross, Cassell, Livingston, Radmanovic, and Dunleavy. How were they not the better team coming into and out of that series?

I think you already alluded to it anyways. I just don't get why you said they weren't the better team first (when they were), and then referenced to them being so.

Denver was again a flawed team, and the worst team of the Carmelo-era.

That series our shooters - if you can call them that- went ice-frickin-cold and it pretty much allowed the Clippers to triple team Carmelo every time he got the ball. And when Carmelo wasn't tripled, they packed the lane.

Karl had no answer for that.

Yeah.

But Denver didn't have any real shooters or guys known for jumpshooting. Where it's a consistency, or a strength for them. That was part of the team's problems that season (again), and why they lost the series badly.

[Young_Star11]

hope to draw the rockets in the first round in 09.

LMAO, Houston's had the better of Denver.

[Young_Star11]

Actually Carmelo's PO stats don't make for very pretty reading. He shoots in the low 40s and even misses more FTs than normal. It's true that he has played some good teams though.

[caborn]

Not until this series did I realize how limited Melo's IQ and how selfish he is. He needs to mature...