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Post#1 » by GreenWithEnvy » Wed Apr 30, 2008 5:56 am

im a Sixers fan to start off and firstly i just wanna congratulate you guys on another great season. i picked u guys to go the finals but lose to Boston.

after the Spurs series is over i started thinking about your main problem and this is what i feel is ur problem. its very simple....

when u traded Shawn Marion away, you made Nash, Amare Barbosa and to an extent Diaw as the only guys that could create offense for others and themselves. Now, Barbosa and Diaw come off the bench with Mike D running a tight ship. so really its just about Nash and Amare. In the past you were dangerous because of guys like Joe Johnson, Quentin Richardson, and Shawn Marion who could beat theyre guys off the dribble and attacking the rim. They were finishers as well....

on to my problem. Your wing players do not fit with the current team right now. Raja Bell was a perfect player to have when you guys had 3 main guys creating offense. Now, many expect him to get his in a way that Marion got instead of saying "just spot up and shoot it". Same goes for Hill. Hes a shell of his former self and does not attack the basket anymore


My Solution is two words long....Corey Maggette. Maggette would give you guys something that youve missed since Marion without messing up ur current roster. He relentlessly attacks the rim and is a willing passer now. With him on board your team looks like this

Nash- obvious
Bell- relegated to spot up shooter
Maggette- Slasher
Amare- obvious
Shaq- 10-15 ppg, rebound and defend mainly

6th man- Barbosa- scoring
7th man- Hill- Spot minutes for Bell and Maggette
8th man- Diaw- spot minutes for Amare and Shaq, creator
9th man- center in draft



this team is much more balanced and athletic. if you play San Antonio in the playoffs again, they will have a very difficult time figuring out matchups. If Bowen goes to Nash, that leaves Finley or Parker for Maggette which will be either scoring on the block, finishing at the rim, or getting people in foul trouble.



you guys need to petition ur management to go after Maggette. he is ur savior!
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Post#2 » by movingaz » Wed Apr 30, 2008 6:04 am

Joe Johnson & Q had been gone for 2 years now....
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The problem is Nash can't guard point guards and the team as a whole makes too many mistakes turn overs wise.

Insert Diaw into the starting line up move Nash to a shooting guard and find a point guard.

Additionally the Suns go to Shaq too much on offense and alot of times he does not finisht that well, the offense needs to go threw Diaw or Amare with Shaq being a role player getting rebounds playing defense not the #1 option on offense. I thought Nash was way too passive on offense and delegated too much. What happen to Mr. Clutch the last few years 25 points per game in the playoffs?
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Post#3 » by Mr. Sun » Wed Apr 30, 2008 6:05 am

Don't think we have anyone that would entice the Clippers to trade him to us.
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Post#4 » by The Hypnotoad » Wed Apr 30, 2008 6:05 am

Maggette, Stephen Jackson, or Ron Artest. We have to pursue ALL avenues to get any of these guys. Trade our two first round picks this year. Do we have enough money to make the trade without giving up Barbosa, Bell, or Diaw?
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Post#5 » by WTFsunsFTW » Wed Apr 30, 2008 6:07 am

Grant Hill is a smarter but older magette. He did great for us this year. Dantoni ran him into the ground during the regular season.

Im a big magette fan and would not mind him here at all, but he is NOT our solution.

Backup PG
Defense
Bench

Are our solutions. In that order.
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Post#6 » by TASTIC » Wed Apr 30, 2008 6:07 am

cripes movingaz you're nuts thinking Nash needs to go to the 2 - a spot where there are BETTER athletes than point guards (generally).

Nash is a PURE point, he's not the problem.

Maggette would be GREAT here. Strong as hell, doesn't take backsteps, athletic, decent shot and as our Philly friend has so eloquently pointed out he can CREATE his own shot.

Nice input Green - cheers and good luck vs DET
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Post#7 » by movingaz » Wed Apr 30, 2008 6:11 am

Nash's turnover and lack of Defense is a Major problem, he most definately can not guard the best point guards. With the Suns new slow down offense a defensive point guard would be better his assits went down and turnovers went up.
Nash's best ability at this point in his career is his shooting.
Want to move forward find a point guard? If they can.
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Post#8 » by nashill » Wed Apr 30, 2008 6:50 am

diaw increased his trade value after the series against the spurs...

trade diaw for artest
draft a rookie center
sign a veteran backup point guard
sign a defensive minded small forward
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Post#9 » by Kobay » Wed Apr 30, 2008 6:56 am

You gotta either sell barbosa or diaw for defense
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Post#10 » by movingaz » Wed Apr 30, 2008 7:07 am

Doesn't Grant Hill Say on the Radio all the time pre recorded that if Nash wanted to he could lead the league in scoring.

HMM....Nash has a lot of turnovers, his assist are shrinking.
Move him to a shooting guard ala Steve Kerr, Del Curry, Eddie Johnson, Fred Brown, Ricky Pierce....I love old sonics players. Reggie Miller.
Let him get 10-15 open shots and score 20+ points with zero turnovers, let the other team have to worry about him being left wide open, bring in a point guard to run the team, not to look for his own shot and play smart ball.....HMM maybe DJ could do that.
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Post#11 » by nba_addict » Wed Apr 30, 2008 8:47 am

The Problem and Solution to our main problem is not on a particular player. Its on the owner, Sarver. For freaking selfishness to cash out some additional luxury tax.

Is there a way to trade Sarver for Mark Cuban?
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Post#12 » by scootfu602 » Wed Apr 30, 2008 12:43 pm

movingaz wrote:Nash's turnover and lack of Defense is a Major problem, he most definately can not guard the best point guards. With the Suns new slow down offense a defensive point guard would be better his assits went down and turnovers went up.
Nash's best ability at this point in his career is his shooting.
Want to move forward find a point guard? If they can.


Nash is still a top tier point guard in this league. I can only think of one Point in this league great on BOTH ends of the floor, and thats CP3. Moving Nash to the 2 only hurts him and the team. He is still the Suns floor general, and does a DAMN fine job. It is so unfortunate to see this man go from the most praised person in AZ to just the next fall guy. Lets not forget, HE is the reason we are where we are today. The Suns were a 20 win team before he arrived.
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Post#13 » by Orange_Blooded » Wed Apr 30, 2008 12:58 pm

Nash did have a bad series by his standards, but he will always be a point guard. He still is among the best offensive players in the league, his defensive deficiencies are not news.

That being said we do need to bring some one in that can guard the Chris Pauls and Tony Parkers of the League..... but so does every other team in the league. If it was easy to guard them than they wouldn't have had the success they have enjoyed, lets just hope Nash can get back to making them pay on the other end.
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Post#14 » by infamiz » Thu May 1, 2008 5:12 am

trade Barbosa for a decent player but that defend and sign Peitrus or chris Duhon. You can't expect to win in against the Spurs after a big trade like that in the middle of the season .
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Post#15 » by enigmatics » Thu May 1, 2008 5:53 am

I full on agree. It's one of the small glut of problems this team needs to shore up.

1. A true backup PG

2. An assistant coach who can preach defensive principle and actually have the team practice them for better in-game recognition of situations

3. A spot up 3 point shooter

4. A slasher

Although I will say that 3 point shooting and slashing literally used to go hand-in-hand for this team back when we had Johnson's slashing abilities to complement guys like Richardson, Nash, LB, and Marion camped out on the wings. Yet, they're all rhythm shooters, the complete opposite of guys like Kyle Korver or a Brent Barry who could go without touches for 3 quarters then catch and shoot in the 4th and still hit a high percentage.

There was a point this year after Shaq's arrival that I found myself asking, "Where did all our shooters go?" ...........

I like the Magette idea a lot. I just don't know how they entice the Clips. Would they even want our Hawks pick? How about LB thrown in that mix? At that point I don't even think the salaries matchup.

As for Nash's defensive liabilities - the team needs to step it up as a whole in order to disguise it, just as a team like the Spurs have done with Tony Parker. Parker couldn't guard anyone in a paper bag, but because the rest of the team knows how to make the effort, it's not nearly as much of an issue.
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Post#16 » by The Main Event » Thu May 1, 2008 5:58 pm

That being said we do need to bring some one in that can guard the Chris Pauls and Tony Parkers of the League.....

Were you not watching the spurs/suns series? Parker doesn't dominate Nash of the dribble, he just work an extremely efficient PnR Offense that allows him to create tremendous space between him and his defender. Give Nash some credit, the guy has got great footwork.
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Post#17 » by flanpaw42 » Thu May 1, 2008 10:16 pm

I have been wanting to bring in maggette for 2 seasons. he is a very good sf who seems to have fallen into dunleavy's doghouse. he is a good rebounder, can create his own shot, and he is very good at drawing fouls and finishing after contact.

i say pick him up. trade barbosa for him. or use the te. sterling is cheap so he can be had. if he works great, if not, he is an expiring contract next season. that means he will be playing for a contract which means we he will play hard.

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Post#18 » by Frank Lee » Fri May 2, 2008 1:08 pm

nba_addict wrote:The Problem and Solution to our main problem is not on a particular player. Its on the owner, Sarver. For freaking selfishness to cash out some additional luxury tax.

Is there a way to trade Sarver for Mark Cuban?



such simplistic brilliance


IMO, We do not get better with subtraction, coach included. RSarver must venture into luxtax-land. The money is there.
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Post#19 » by Togo » Fri May 2, 2008 2:16 pm

I agree. Do you think Toronto would do a TJ Ford for Boris Diaw? That would solve some of our problems.
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Post#20 » by nashill » Fri May 2, 2008 2:58 pm

Togo wrote:I agree. Do you think Toronto would do a TJ Ford for Boris Diaw? That would solve some of our problems.
what a defensive minded back court......

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