Doc Rivers, please explain this to me

[GreenGrizz]

This is TA's biggest opportunity to show that he is worthy a part of the team.

[Fencer reregistered]

Can we afford the cost elsewhere on the floor of putting KG on Johnson?

That WOULD give the Hawks mismatches elsewhere, and it would mean Pierce has a PF's rebounding duties, so I lean to "No".

That becomes an even more interesting question in a hypothetical matchup vs. Cleveland, where putting KG on LBJ would be highly desirable, if we could stand the consequences inside.

[Celtics_History_Lesson]

Posey .

That is the way to go, they signed him to be the great defender in the playoffs but then don't use him when it matters.

They can't play Tony Allen instead of Posey, with six headfakes there would be six fouls and a lot of easy points for Atlanta.

[BrokenLeftyJumper]

You guys crack me up.

I'm surprised I haven't seen the "Tony Allen Sucks!!!! Doc is Clueless!!!" thread yet considering TA got in the game and promptly airballed a three, almost turned the ball over, and fouled JJ shooting a three.

Yet but Doc is still an idiot for not putting TA in to cover JJ in game 4. And we would have won the game if he played. Sure guys, keep telling yourselves that.

[tombattor]

You guys crack me up.

I'm surprised I haven't seen the "Tony Allen Sucks!!!! Doc is Clueless!!!" thread yet considering TA got in the game and promptly airballed a three, almost turned the ball over, and fouled JJ shooting a three.

Yet but Doc is still an idiot for not putting TA in to cover JJ in game 4. And we would have won the game if he played. Sure guys, keep telling yourselves that.

You crack me up. Using hindsight to put yourself on the high horse. Can you sink ant lower?

Yes Doc was an idiot for not putting TA in to cover JJ because he was beating Ray off the dribble on every play. TA did make a few mistakes tonight, but that doesn't mean he's still not a good, maybe even the best wing defender on the team. And even from your high horse, you should be able to see that he has a better lateral quickness than Ray. Which was why people were wondering why Doc didn't at least try to go with TA.

I love how you judge TA's capabilities in this series based on his cameo 2 minute stint.

[tlee324]

I think Tony actually has had good moments on the floor in his history as an NBA player, and actually, he has had his better games when he's able to play a consistent role with some consistent minutes rather than cold off the bench for a few minutes and that's all for the day. That's going to be called an "excuse", but it's also the truth. Sometimes what is true is going to purposely be called an excuse because there aren't many intelligent rebuttals for a fact....

[BrokenLeftyJumper]

You crack me up. Using hindsight to put yourself on the high horse. Can you sink ant lower?

Yes Doc was an idiot for not putting TA in to cover JJ because he was beating Ray off the dribble on every play.

Whoa, so I'm the one using hindsight to put myself on the high horse? Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Wouldn't you say all the clowns who were screaming for TA to be put in the game after the C's lost game 4 were using hindsight to put themselves on the high horse? Yea, it's easy to say Doc was a moron for not putting TA in the game when you know how the game turned out and can freely play fantasy land in your mind and assume that putting TA in the game would have somehow won the game because of course, when TA is on the bench, he's somehow this lockdown defender Bruce Bowen reincarnate.

And honestly, how many times do coaches ever put in a guy, who hasn't played all game, hasn't played well for the last few months, and who is known to not be the most mentally tough guy, and just thrown him into the 4th quarter of a crunchtime game solely for defensive purposes? Maybe in an offense-defense situation, but the game didn't even get to that point. Also whose TA gonna go in for? Ray Allen? Come on.

I don't think TA is a bad player either. I think he's pretty solid. If he was in the rotation, then I could have seen bringing him to D up JJ. But crying for him to be put in when he hadn't played all game and has clearly been struggling with his confidence, and then blaming Doc for it, THAT is using hindsight to put yourself on the high horse.

As far as complaining about me using hindsight to get on the high horse, its funny how some of the irrational know it alls and Doc Haters can't stand a taste of their own medicine.

[SeizeCoup]

I think Tony should have been a part of the playoff rotation (even if only for short minutes) starting with game 1. Throwing him out there to guard JJ at the end of game 4 probably would not have worked all that well.

Imo, TA needs to have a positive impact this post-season. He can guard PG's, SG's, and SF's. Hopefully Doc continues to acclimate. Against Detroit (and whoever comes out of the West) there is going to be a need for Tony's skills.

[MyInsatiableOne]

Tony Allen was dreadful last night and showed, yet again, A) for all his talent, he is the DUMBEST basketball player on the team, perhaps in the entire playoff field! and B) Doc was right for not giving him heavy minutes and would be justified in doing so again

[tombattor]

Tony Allen does make some boneheaded plays, but you can't judge his effectiveness based on his 3 minute stint in the first half. If he gets Cassell minutes, he would actually make a difference. We know this because we've seen it all year. With consistent minutes, he makes consistent contributions.

On the other hand, Cassell kills offensive flow, can't guard anyone and is generally a cancer to this team. His making a few shots was the worst thing that happened to this team last night because he's going to keep launching shots as the rest of the team watches him. They gotta deactivate him for the next series because his inability to play D and penchant for jacking up shots to stroke his ego will be our downfall.

[MyInsatiableOne]

@ your Sam hate^^

While I think in general his minutes need to be cut, he helped us last night. However, last night was the exception rather than the rule!

[Celts17Pride]

Tony Allen does make some boneheaded plays, but you can't judge his effectiveness based on his 3 minute stint in the first half.

Sorry but Tony Allen has been clueless the whole season. The Celtics have shown an incredible amount of patience with him and he still is clueless and ineffective. He has no idea whats going on in the game. His only move is to get the ball and go head down toward the basket.

I believe the Celtic's patience runs out this off-season. I don't expect to see TA back.

[MyInsatiableOne]

Tony Allen=the basketball IQ of Gerald Green and Kedrick Brown but with actual basketball skills!

[SeizeCoup]

From what I've heard -- according to those who spend time around the team -- Tony Allen is considered to be (by far) the dumbest of all the players. He just doesn't come across as being all that bright. Super Nice guy, not a mensa candidate. fwiw.

[UGA Hayes]

ot but anyone else think its funny how much more active the board became after game 3 and 4 compared to games 1 and 2. Definitely gives credence to the losing sells in sports media.