Did we hire Skiles too early?

[BucksRuleAll22]

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You seem to have a real bee in your bonnet over this. Not really sure where its all coming from. What is your rationale based on to come to this conclusion - because it doesn't match your personal view point???

Its because Skiles is a average coach at best. Great xs/os coach but bad with players. Every season I listen to the same crap from the Bucks how to trust them, that this team is gonna be better next season and it never is. They don't even try every season. They half asz everything they do.

The season is over for the Bucks bc they are a joke, but the whole season is not done. There is no point on having to hire a coach asap after you fire one when you have plenty of time to try to get the best guy possable.

The Bucks and fans are nothing but a bunch of losers. Thats why this team is always bad and nothing changes. Everyones excuse for Skiles is no good coach would want to come here. And the team and fans have low standards so making the playoffs for this team and fans here is just as good as wining a NBA finals for other teams and fans.

Its sickning. Nothing is gonna chanage to the people in the organization and fans accept more then just being decent or average.

[BucksRuleAll22]

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Skiles was Donnie Walsh's first choice too, so what does that make him?

Donnie Walsh is a horrible GM. Look at the guy! I wouldn't trust that guy running my local McDonalds.

[BucksRuleAll22]

Hammond was the guy I wanted I just don't like the coaching move comming this fast. I would of liked him to take more time and see what coaches become available and settle for the best he could get.

[icat2000]

The Bucks and fans are nothing but a bunch of losers.

Now no need to be so hard on yourself.

May I suggest a new nick to reflect your current mood. BucksLoserMe

And what coach should Hammond had hired (realistic coaching in Milwaukee options only).

[Bucks_Revenge]

the mind set Hammond had with this team Skiles was always he guy...

[PaBuck]

Based on the players we have, Skiles is the handsdown man for the job. I agree with previous posters who are of the opinion that we're lucky we pulled the trigger on him when we did. With other job openings currently available, it would now have been a much tougher sell!

[BuckFan25226]

It's about the players. The last thing we need is D'antoni, He had 3 all stars and one 2 time MVP.

Avery Johnson had 3 all stars, and an MVP.

We have, what? A bunch of 2nd and 3rd tier players. This team the past few years would be no different with a D'antoni or Avery Johnson then it would of been with Stotts. LK on the other hand, we probably could of been better, but not a playoff team.

[Hollywood24]

It's never fun to admit but we were and still are not in much of a position to leverage/lure a coach or players to this team. I like the fact that we went after something right away, it was the right move and I think its fantasy to assume that we could jockey with Chicago, Dallas, Miami, Phoenix etc. in a race for the top coaching prospects. From the early moves that have been made I like the fact that Hammond sees what he wants and pulls the trigger. Done. It appears as though he has the blessing of the Senator to make his moves and mold this team over the course of the next few months. We will see, a lot has to happen between now and opening game, fingers crossed in the lottery and draft. If we enjoy success there I think next year could really look different. Heres hoping, but I like the direction its going

[old skool]

I think that Hammond saved some money by signing a coach early. He also avoided competing for coaching talent with more attractive rosters in Phoenix and Dallas, an owner who spends money like water in Dallas, and a great climate in Phoenix. While Skiles might not have considered returning to the Suns and was not a possibility for Chicago, Hammond would have risked losing Skiles to another team if he had waited.

Skiles is unique among the top coaches on the market, in that he has taken every (two) team that he has coached and improved them markedly in a short period of time, making them playoff teams. In this regard, he is arguably more successful than Flip Saunders, Doug Collins, Hubie Brown, and Mike Fratello. Mike D'Antoni boosted the Suns, but that was about the arrival of Steve Nash. Avery Johnson inherited a top team in Dallas. Rick Carlisle had good teams in Detroit and Indiana. Larry Brown is a proven winner, but even he stumbled badly in NY.

oLd sKool

[old skool]

For a team like the Bucks - talented but young and not knowing how to play winning basketball - the key might not be the first coaching hire, but how that coach can help the team progress for the coach to follow.

Don Nelson did not get the Mavs to the Finals, but he did set things up for Avery Johnson to succeed to that level.

Rick Carlisle helped the Pistons develop, but it took Larry Brown and the acquisition of Rasheed Wallace to get Detroit a ring.

The shelf life of an NBA coach is short. I think that Scott Skiles is a better coach for a developing team like the Bucks or Bulls, than for an established team like the Mavs or Spurs.

Besides, it is all about the players. Pat Riley's 15-67 season showed how little difference the coach can make.

oLd sKool

[moistie]

Seems you're in the vast minority there, BucksRuleAll22. 52 of 58 people disagree with you.

[NotYoAvgNBAFan]

These polls are confusing when you add stuff to yes or no answers!

Just ask yes or no! Don't speculate on what Hammond would have done.
That is irrelevant.

The goal was to win and make the playoffs this year so he should have been hired a long time ago by GM Larry Harris and he would still be here.

I voted no. But I did not want it to be no the way you put it, adding all of that stuff to it. I wanted no to be no.

No Skiles was not hired too early...

In fact, as I said 3 months ago he SHOULD HAVE BEEN HIRED BY LARRY HARRIS the minute he was let go by the Bulls the next day in December!

There was no other canidate more perfect then Skiles out there. Who? I would take him over anyone who was out there.

I had it:

#1 Skiles
#2 Van Gundy
#3 Carisle
#4 Silas
#5 Brown (Even Hubie Brown. But Larry Brown is who I meant.
#6 Cowens
#7 Fratello

[BucksRuleAll22]

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Now no need to be so hard on yourself.

May I suggest a new nick to reflect your current mood. BucksLoserMe

And what coach should Hammond had hired (realistic coaching in Milwaukee options only).

Thats the point im tyring to make with loser fans thinking Milwaukee is not good enough for a good coach to come here.

[BucksRuleAll22]

It's about the players. The last thing we need is D'antoni, He had 3 all stars and one 2 time MVP.

Avery Johnson had 3 all stars, and an MVP.

We have, what? A bunch of 2nd and 3rd tier players. This team the past few years would be no different with a D'antoni or Avery Johnson then it would of been with Stotts. LK on the other hand, we probably could of been better, but not a playoff team.

The Suns were robbed a championship last year from Stern. And it takes a great coach and players to win a championship. D'Antoni is a great coach being ran out by the NBAs worth GM.

[BucksRuleAll22]

Seems you're in the vast minority there, BucksRuleAll22. 52 of 58 people disagree with you.

I like not fiting in with the majority. means I don't think the same as everyone else. maybe Im dumber, maybe Im a genious.

[trwi7]

These polls are confusing when you add stuff to yes or no answers!

[BucksRuleAll22]

My coaches I would like.

#1 D' Antoni (will be gone bc he knows Kerr is a idiot)
#2 Eddie Jordan (I keep hearing he could not be back)
#3 Avery johnson (One of the best young coaches)
#4 Jeff Van Gundy
#5 Carisle
#6 Skiles
#7 Brown

[Rockmaninoff]

I actually think D'Antoni would be the perfect coach for this roster.

Think about it, he could run the high screen and roll with Sessions and Bogut. He could stock the perimeter with potentially great 3 point shooters in Redd, Simmons, and Yi. He could have his better than Barbosa sixth man in Williams. He could use Yi like he used Marion on defense (Anybody remember that Tony Brown led blowout against the Raptors? Yi was switching to the point guard and pretty much shut down TJ Ford.). Villanueva would be his Boris Diaw.

I think D'Antoni could take an eight man rotation of:

Sessions/Williams
Redd/Williams
Simmons/Villanueva
Yi/Villanueva
Bogut/Gadzuric

...and make it a top three offense in the NBA. Defense would be top twenty, and that's good enough for an exciting to watch 50 win team.

Hey, maybe Skiles will do similar things. I've read that he likes small ball and perimeter shooting. It is what it is, and I'm happy that Hammond and the Bucks got their guy and that that guy has some credibility.