B Mac wrote:yungal- I wont lie Ive been hard on you for years now ever since your claim that you wouldnt trade Haywood for Varejao and Gibson straight up... I've been consistantly calling you out ever since then for things I thought were wrong. However, I'll appluad you for starting a thread here admitting the travel and the foul. That was classy.
I do think however, that you figured your admittance would be a bigger deal to us... the fact is, as most people have pointed out, we dont go into complete blame the refs mode when things look unfair. So to us the admittance doesnt do a lot for us, since we werent really blaming the refs anyway. Sure we gripe about the officiating from time to time, but its not an every game thing like it has appeared to be for 3 years now from some Wizard fans.
Most of us here look to blame our team first and foremost for not executing, which again most of us did last night. It just appears to be a different story in Wizland for many posters. Maybe its because we have a relatively small group of posters on our board, but for whatever reason we dont fall into many of the traps that other boards do. I honestly do find myself proud for the way we act on here. (BTW I know its weird to be proud of strangers)
Caron did travel. No way was that a foul.
James initiated the contact by jumping into Songaila. Songaila's forward momentum, slight that it was, was caused by a slick veteran move. Ilgauskas pushed him. I don't like to post on the Cavs board, but I think Wizard fan yungal doesn't speak for most of us (Wizard fans) on the foul part.
Where I do think he's always been correct is Haywood's worth more than Varejao and Gibson. You don't get seven footers who can play at both ends. Haywood is the real reason the Wizards could beat Boston this year. His defense on Garnett was outstanding. His offense is getting better. He's still 27 years old. The guy can play.Gibson's a clutch shooter and Varejao's good at rebounding, defending and flopping. However, neither is as valuable as a true C who can play well at both ends.
