Adding a low post scorer; re-signing Tony

chakdaddy · Post #1 » by **chakdaddy** » Fri May 2, 2008 5:51 pm

I wonder if the best move with Tony Allen might be this - resign him to a fairly generous, but short-term contract - specifically, a 2 year contract to coincide with Scalabrine's, making them both attractive expiring contracts that could be packaged for a bigger salary guy in 2009-10 or the summer of 2009.

As for big salary guys who could be dumped - one of Eddy Curry and Zach Randolph needs to be dumped; obviously they don't fit in with our defense and there are attitiude concerns, but a big off the bench with legit low post offense would be useful.

What are other options? I wonder how bad Antawn Jamison wants a championship, and maybe a bigger payday after Ray retires?

I was also thinking about Josh Smith, and how he is everything Tyrus Thomas should be if he had a brain. How tight are Thomas and Big Baby? Could Thomas be a good reclamation project down the line? Or would the influence the go the other direction and ruin Big Baby?

chakdaddy · Post #2 » by **chakdaddy** » Fri May 2, 2008 5:56 pm

Oh yeah, if we really want to talk MLE, ring-chasing pay cut pipe dreams...what if Emeka Okafor wanted to come back to the northeast?

I wonder if Ainge will go after Robert Swift, if we want to be more realistic.

Double-Overtime · Post #3 » by **Double-Overtime** » Fri May 2, 2008 6:07 pm

eddie curry/ zach randolph.....shirley you cant be serious.

Truthiracy · Post #4 » by **Truthiracy** » Fri May 2, 2008 6:24 pm

The Curry & Randolph options were listed as a joke, right? Hopefully?

yodi184 · Post #5 » by **yodi184** » Fri May 2, 2008 6:24 pm

Win-now.. decide later

Zach Randolph/Eddy Curry, hehe you gotta be kidding

Since when did Veal become attractive?? :S

Kids Are Alright · Post #6 » by **Kids Are Alright** » Fri May 2, 2008 6:32 pm

Is swift the same swift that everyone says Ainge has had a crush on for years????

RoyHobbs · Post #7 » by **RoyHobbs** » Fri May 2, 2008 7:07 pm

Perk + BBD + Tony for Marcus Camby. It's definitely a "win now" move, but I think it ensures we're the championship favorites again next season.

threrf23 · Post #8 » by **threrf23** » Fri May 2, 2008 7:25 pm

I think the best potentially available FA with an offensive post-up game is...Ron Artest.

I am cool with resigning Tony, I like him. But if we feel we can land an upgrade @ SG easily enough, there just won't be so many minutes for him anyway.

Dogen · Post #9 » by **Dogen** » Fri May 2, 2008 7:27 pm

RoyHobbs wrote:Perk + BBD + Tony for Marcus Camby. It's definitely a "win now" move, but I think it ensures we're the championship favorites again next season.

That's too much to give up for one of Blue Cross/Blue Shields best customers. Not bad, I just wouldn't give up Perk w/o having more back-up big available.

MyInsatiableOne · Post #10 » by **MyInsatiableOne** » Fri May 2, 2008 7:27 pm

RoyHobbs wrote:Perk + BBD + Tony for Marcus Camby. It's definitely a "win now" move, but I think it ensures we're the championship favorites again next season.

That thins our frontcourt considerably, though. All we have for big men then are KG, Powe, and the brittle Camby. With our luck he'd be out for 40 games.

No thanks.

chakdaddy · Post #11 » by **chakdaddy** » Fri May 2, 2008 7:40 pm

Funny, I don't really think Denver would go for Davis/Perk/Allen for Camby either.

I actually think Curry or, especially Randolph would be good options - if they had lower salaries. If Randolph had Curry's salary he'd be about right, but then the Knicks probably wouldn't want to trade him. But seriously, we could hide those guys on defense, whereas the Knicks couldn't. And one of them (at least Randolph would) patch our only real hole - a big man who can generate offense down low. Powe can finish but it's mostly garbage man stuff, putbacks. KG can do it but is more content with fadeaways; we've missed a guy like this since we traded Jefferson. Somebody who we can work it into down low when the jumper's aren't falling, who could really make Horford work down low on defense. Obviously we could use somebody like Horford himself. But we won't have a chance at a high draft pick like that; if we could afford to add someone like Zach Randolph to bring off the bench, it would be useful - there aren't many ways to improve this team further, but that would be one. The consideration is whether it is worth big luxury tax penalties for what might only be an incremental improvement.

Our roster is at the point where only certain moves make sense. We could really use a post up big, another swingman like Artest would not fit the bill. Randolph fits the bill as someone who can score and who might be acquirable.

Hemingway · Post #12 » by **Hemingway** » Fri May 2, 2008 8:40 pm

Jamison is a guy I'd love on our team. Here is a question though: Someone mentioned him coming here for the MLE, which is a pay cut and getting rewarded later. Well, can we really do that? I mean you can only pay someone a little bit more then you did the year before, am i right? Could we sign a guy to the MLE and then give him a new max deal the next year if we wanted to? I'm confused on the rules here.

yodi184 · Post #13 » by **yodi184** » Fri May 2, 2008 8:52 pm

chakdaddy wrote:I actually think Curry or, especially Randolph would be good options - if they had lower salaries.

But the thing is... they don't...
I wouldn't want to be part of a losing culture such as these two had.. could be contagious

greenbeans · Post #14 » by **greenbeans** » Fri May 2, 2008 9:30 pm

yodi184 wrote:

I wouldn't want to be part of a losing culture such as these two had.. could be contagious

you know whos currently on our team?? they werent exactly winners the past couple years

hiphop1 · Post #15 » by **hiphop1** » Fri May 2, 2008 10:20 pm

Hemingway wrote:Jamison is a guy I'd love on our team. Here is a question though: Someone mentioned him coming here for the MLE, which is a pay cut and getting rewarded later. Well, can we really do that? I mean you can only pay someone a little bit more then you did the year before, am i right? Could we sign a guy to the MLE and then give him a new max deal the next year if we wanted to? I'm confused on the rules here.

McHale did with Joe Smith, and we all remember what happend to Minny.

chakdaddy · Post #16 » by **chakdaddy** » Fri May 2, 2008 10:20 pm

Jamison could be re-signed 3 years down the road, I meant.

It's pretty iffy whether someone that young would take such a pay cut though. I wonder what the market will be like for Okafor, he'd be like a much better version of Perk.

cisco · Post #17 » by **cisco** » Fri May 2, 2008 10:29 pm

Hemingway wrote:Jamison is a guy I'd love on our team. Here is a question though: Someone mentioned him coming here for the MLE, which is a pay cut and getting rewarded later. Well, can we really do that? I mean you can only pay someone a little bit more then you did the year before, am i right? Could we sign a guy to the MLE and then give him a new max deal the next year if we wanted to? I'm confused on the rules here.

I'm not so sure Jamison is a good fit for the Celtics. Where would Jamison play? We already have a great PF and a great SF. Do you expect him to come off the bench? He can't play PF here because KG doesn't like to play center.

greenbeans · Post #18 » by **greenbeans** » Fri May 2, 2008 10:34 pm

chakdaddy wrote:I wonder what the market will be like for Okafor,

i wonder what will be the situation with all those guys. theres only gonna be like 2 teams with caproom that are gonna use it. 1 year deals on one of them guys who had a downyear maybe??

armageddon · Post #19 » by **armageddon** » Fri May 2, 2008 11:20 pm

Move up in the draft and get Darrell Arthur from Kansas. He will be an Al Jefferson clone. Move anyone not part of the Big-4 (includes RR).

GuyClinch · Post #20 » by **GuyClinch** » Fri May 2, 2008 11:30 pm

For that low price you would have to take Camby. He is too good a player to pass up. Your going to need another bruiser to replace Perkins. But it's not like Perkins is an amazing player..

Pete