Poll: How do you feel about a STAT trade now?

[The Nash Era]

Amare will become a better defensive player

Can you give me an instance when a player going into his 7th year in the league, out of nowhere, became a good defensive player? I mean this sincerely! Please give me some hope that it has happened before. I can't think of one.

The problem with Amare is being devoted to playing D all game and every game instead of every 20 games. It's not like he doesn't have enough tools to be a solid defensive player, he just doesn't give the effort a lot of times.

[mkot]

I do. It is my humble opinion that having both him and Amare just will not work.

It's the coaching staff job to work it out. Really. Boris can run the pick and roll too, in the low post with Amare, why not try more of those? Post up, dribble penetrate with Amare slashing and cutting. They had showed flashes, we just have to make it a game plan every game. The problem has been Mike likes to roll the ball out and just let his players go. And that's why Boris goes Doris most games. He doesn't have the focus, passion, or drive to assert himself on his own. Mike has to make it the game plan. The skills are there, its on the coaches to bring them out.

And, IF it comes to trading one of them. I know Amare is the franchise player, but trading Amare would be the way to go because he can bring back value to the team and improve us as a team. Boris, on the other hand, and his $9 million per contract is considered negative value so trading him will not be easy unless we're taking crap back.

[CAE15]

Seems most arent interested in trading amare, but I was thinking what about this deal.

Utah trades
Boozer
Almond
NY 2010 1st (unprotected)

Phoenix trades
Amare

I figure more of a post guy with shaq would work great for the suns, both are bad on defense, but the Jazz would just have amare be that shot blocking presence on D. Im not so sure it makes the suns better, but it is something I did think about. Not sure how everyone else feels.

[Arles]

Got no interest in that. There's no legit deal we can make involving Amare that makes us better now or later.

[Hawks]

Just curious since we are looking back. If there was any truth to the rumors. Would you guys have done the Atl/Phx trade which was basically #3-Horford and #11-Law/Stuckley,expirings for Amare?

[Arles]

Prob not. Horford is OK, but no Amare. Law or Stuckley don't look like much either.

[rsavaj]

I'd be totally down with a Joe Johnson+Josh Smith for Amare trade....

[DePastino]

If there truly was a possibility last summer to trade STAT for KG straight up, THAT was the deal to make.

Had we done that deal, Marion would still be here, we'd still be in the playoffs and actually be a threat to win it all.

Talking about trading Stoudemire NOW is pointless.

But he's lost a lot of his luster as far as I'm concerned. I'm tired of his liabilities, tired of waiting for him to put forth consistent effort on the defensive end and stop making boneheaded mistakes during critical possessions.

[enigmatics]

If there truly was a possibility last summer to trade STAT for KG straight up, THAT was the deal to make.

Had we done that deal, Marion would still be here, we'd still be in the playoffs and actually be a threat to win it all.

Talking about trading Stoudemire NOW is pointless.

But he's lost a lot of his luster as far as I'm concerned. I'm tired of his liabilities, tired of waiting for him to put forth consistent effort on the defensive end and stop making boneheaded mistakes during critical possessions.

I'm not convinced Trix would've been able to handle KG's nonstop barking.

[DePastino]

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I'm not convinced Trix would've been able to handle KG's nonstop barking.

Moot, since neither one of them is actually here.

Frankly, if Amare were gone and we had a legit shot to win the title, I think Marion would have found a way to keep his mouth shut.

[enigmatics]

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Moot, since neither one of them is actually here.

Frankly, if Amare were gone and we had a legit shot to win the title, I think Marion would have found a way to keep his mouth shut.

Wait, my point is moot and yours isn't?

[KPCB34]

I lobe amare!

if we traded amare i would be soooo pissed,.

trade diaw get him out of amares way.

we played the world champs first round and got beat, every1 needs to chill out.

we r o0k

[Togo]

I am undecided on Amare.

He is an incredible offensive talent. IMO the best offensive big man in the league. He can change the game with his offense. He is a hard worker.

He is also a horrible defender, and I am starting to wonder if he will ever become a decent defender.

I believe that we are wasting 9 million dollars on the bench. Amare and Boris play the high post. They do not play well together because of this. If Amare played the low post well/ or was a good passer, I think they could. But simply put, he doesn't play the low post well, nor is he a good passer.

I wonder if we would be a better team if we trade Amare for equal talent.

Amare for Carmelo.

Would a Nash/Bell/Melo/Diaw/Shaq with Barbosa/Giricek/Hill on the bench and #15 be better than a Nash/Bell/Hill/Amare/Shaq with Barbosa/Diaw/Giricek on the bench and #15?

I am starting to believe it would. Here are a few reasons why:

1. Amare could need surgery with in the next few years, and may not come back as good as he did this time.
2. Boris has shown me when he is used correctly, he is quite a talent. (I admit, I wanted him traded more than anyone else on the team. I think I was wrong).
3. Carmelo does have problems. I don't believe he has had the right mentors in place to help him. Nash/Hill/Shaq would certainly help him in that respect (Especially when we consider the leadership in Denver comprises of AI, KMart, and Camby). Basketball wise, having another player that can create his own shot, that has a good jumpshot, and is clutch would certainly help.



Just an idea.

[biskvito]

Amare is good if you don't want a ring, because there's no way you goint to get one playing NO DEFENSE WHATSOEVER!

[asubennett]

I am undecided on Amare.

He is an incredible offensive talent. IMO the best offensive big man in the league. He can change the game with his offense. He is a hard worker.

He is also a horrible defender, and I am starting to wonder if he will ever become a decent defender.

I believe that we are wasting 9 million dollars on the bench. Amare and Boris play the high post. They do not play well together because of this. If Amare played the low post well/ or was a good passer, I think they could. But simply put, he doesn't play the low post well, nor is he a good passer.

I wonder if we would be a better team if we trade Amare for equal talent.

Amare for Carmelo.

Would a Nash/Bell/Melo/Diaw/Shaq with Barbosa/Giricek/Hill on the bench and #15 be better than a Nash/Bell/Hill/Amare/Shaq with Barbosa/Diaw/Giricek on the bench and #15?

I am starting to believe it would. Here are a few reasons why:

1. Amare could need surgery with in the next few years, and may not come back as good as he did this time.
2. Boris has shown me when he is used correctly, he is quite a talent. (I admit, I wanted him traded more than anyone else on the team. I think I was wrong).
3. Carmelo does have problems. I don't believe he has had the right mentors in place to help him. Nash/Hill/Shaq would certainly help him in that respect (Especially when we consider the leadership in Denver comprises of AI, KMart, and Camby). Basketball wise, having another player that can create his own shot, that has a good jumpshot, and is clutch would certainly help.



Just an idea.

If you get mad at Amare's defense you would get real mad with Melos defense.

[Togo]

Possibly. I don't think he is worse than Amare. I think he is slightly better. He doesn't get dominated like Amare does.

[albasuna]

is it possible we can somehow swing a deal with toronto... Barbosa for Calderon?

[Togo]

I would love to. I just don't see the Raptors doing it. Possibly a Barbosa for Bargnani.

[albasuna]

I was just reading that Calderon article and it was saying something along the lines that they need a scorer who doesn't take just jumpshots. ding ding barbosa!

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