#9 for Conley
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#9 for Conley
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#9 for Conley
We've had this discussion before, and this is likely assuming Memphis is in a position to take Rose. It fills a need for next season, and you get a playmaker with great potential for filling up the stat sheet. Some people hate him, some love him, so would you deal the 9 for Conley?
Keep in mind he was only 20 years old last year before calling him a bust; and there's rarely a point guard to come in that early and tear the league up. Here's a few notable games from his rookie year(that everyone considers a bad year for some reason):
Points/assists/rebounds
12/6/3
13/8/7
25/5/2
15/3/7
19/5/7
18/2/3
All of those numbers were in the last month of the season by the way. A few more...
17/5/1
11/6/3
10/6/2
15/11/2
16/2/3
8/9/4
16/4/4
13/5/3
10/10/2
20/7/1
10/7/4
7/8/3
15/3/1
11/6/5
11/7/5
7/8/6
He'd be a very interesting option to groom if we hired D'Antoni. Also, Conley's dad is a Chicago guy and said on the radio that it was Mike and his' dream to be a Bull one day.
It's a yes from me by the way.
Keep in mind he was only 20 years old last year before calling him a bust; and there's rarely a point guard to come in that early and tear the league up. Here's a few notable games from his rookie year(that everyone considers a bad year for some reason):
Points/assists/rebounds
12/6/3
13/8/7
25/5/2
15/3/7
19/5/7
18/2/3
All of those numbers were in the last month of the season by the way. A few more...
17/5/1
11/6/3
10/6/2
15/11/2
16/2/3
8/9/4
16/4/4
13/5/3
10/10/2
20/7/1
10/7/4
7/8/3
15/3/1
11/6/5
11/7/5
7/8/6
He'd be a very interesting option to groom if we hired D'Antoni. Also, Conley's dad is a Chicago guy and said on the radio that it was Mike and his' dream to be a Bull one day.
It's a yes from me by the way.
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I say definitely. He is a much better prospect than DJ Augustin IMO. We really don't have a chance to get an elite level PG anytime soon and this is as close as we can get. He is smart and quick. If he can get a consistent jumper he can be a top 10 PG easily. Tyrus and Joakim need a PG like Conley that can get in the lane and make something happen for them.
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I think it would take more than the #9 pick to get Conley (he was the #4 pick last year, after all).
No harm in taking a run at him if the Grizzlies take Rose, but I wouldn't count on being able to get him.
I don't think Conley is special -- he had some decent games, but he also had a bunch of ones where he looked like he had no clue. He's not a scorer on the Paul/Williams/Parker level, and he's not a playmaker on the Nash/Kidd/Paul level. But he's probably worth asking about if you are the Chaicago GM
In the end, I don't see the Grizzlies taking Rose -- I think they are more likely to go with Beasley (if both are on the board), since they actually need a PF much more than they do a PG. So IMO, this whole idea is probably moot.
No harm in taking a run at him if the Grizzlies take Rose, but I wouldn't count on being able to get him.
I don't think Conley is special -- he had some decent games, but he also had a bunch of ones where he looked like he had no clue. He's not a scorer on the Paul/Williams/Parker level, and he's not a playmaker on the Nash/Kidd/Paul level. But he's probably worth asking about if you are the Chaicago GM
In the end, I don't see the Grizzlies taking Rose -- I think they are more likely to go with Beasley (if both are on the board), since they actually need a PF much more than they do a PG. So IMO, this whole idea is probably moot.
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Well, I would take Conley every time over Augustin. Maybe you throw in a second or two to make it look more fair.
Regardless, this discussion relies on so many assumptions its not realistic at all:
Memphis is in a position to take Rose
Memphis actually takes Rose
The Bulls want to upgrade PG
The Bulls don't trade the pick
The Bulls find a taker for Hinrich
Who?
Regardless, this discussion relies on so many assumptions its not realistic at all:
Memphis is in a position to take Rose
Memphis actually takes Rose
The Bulls want to upgrade PG
The Bulls don't trade the pick
The Bulls find a taker for Hinrich
Red Larivee wrote:We can do much better with the #9 than Mike Conley Jr.
Pass.
Who?
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I don't like Conley at all. I'd still consider doing this trade, because this draft class stinks.
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coldfish wrote:Well, I would take Conley every time over Augustin. Maybe you throw in a second or two to make it look more fair.
Regardless, this discussion relies on so many assumptions its not realistic at all:
Memphis is in a position to take Rose
Memphis actually takes Rose
The Bulls want to upgrade PG
The Bulls don't trade the pick
The Bulls find a taker for Hinrich
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Who?
Package the pick for a good all-star/near-all-star player.
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We have a better chance of drafting 10th than drafting 1-3.
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I'd trade the 9 pick straight up for Carl Landry, let alone Mike Conley. There is no one at 9 who will help the Bulls. There are so many guys out there who are cheaper who could help us that the pick is merely a waste of cap space. A second round pick is as valuable this year imo as at least you don't have to give a gauranteed contract.
I will retract this if Gordon or Mayo falls to 9, but then again, how many shooting guards are on the roster?
I will retract this if Gordon or Mayo falls to 9, but then again, how many shooting guards are on the roster?
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Jello Biafra wrote:I'd trade the 9 pick straight up for Carl Landry, let alone Mike Conley. There is no one at 9 who will help the Bulls. There are so many guys out there who are cheaper who could help us that the pick is merely a waste of cap space. A second round pick is as valuable this year imo as at least you don't have to give a gauranteed contract.
I will retract this if Gordon or Mayo falls to 9, but then again, how many shooting guards are on the roster?
You'd trade the #9 pick in this year's draft for Carl Landry?
On that note, I'm done for today.
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Agreed. For a high lottery pick point guard, he's ass. He's a late first round talent and always was. I'd take Augustin or Westbrook over him in a heartbeat.
Glad to see I'm not the only person who shared these veiws.
I always thought he and his father were pretty smart for coat tailing Oden into the pro's since High School days though.
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Red Larrivee wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
You'd trade the #9 pick in this year's draft for Carl Landry?
On that note, I'm done for today.
Sorry for letting a little math get in the way of perception, but:
Carl Landry. 2007 2nd round pick. 31st overall. 8.1 ppg, 61% fgp, 5 rpg, in 17 minutes per game.
Joakim Noah. 9th pick 2007. 6.6 ppg, 48% fgp, 5.6 rpg, in 21 minutes per game.
Who was the more effective player?
Now, I'm not saying the Bulls need or want Carl Landry. I just don't see anyone at #9 in next years weaker draft being more productive.