JHo is leaving... What is the best deal for Mavs?

your_dallas_mavericks · Post #41 » by **your_dallas_mavericks** » Mon May 5, 2008 6:04 pm

^^ This of course leads us back to the Artest argument. Artest may be the best choice we could get at SG with the specifications JES12 is describing...

JES12 · Post #42 » by **JES12** » Mon May 5, 2008 6:26 pm

your_dallas_mavericks wrote:^^ This of course leads us back to the Artest argument. Artest may be the best choice we could get at SG with the specifications JES12 is describing...

I'd rather let Howard smoke some pot over the summer, refresh his head, go through training cam and see him under Rick (or other coach) before I trade him for only Artest.

Flash4thewin · Post #43 » by **Flash4thewin** » Mon May 5, 2008 9:43 pm

The mavs are bad trading partners for the Heat. You have no lottery pick or young stud to trade. Howard isnt worth Marion and Marion has 10x more value as a max near 17 mil expiring contract.

Henry Turner · Post #44 » by **Henry Turner** » Mon May 5, 2008 10:05 pm

I prefer to keep josh ho as we can't get anything valuable for him.
And let's keep grandpa and let his fat contract expires. He's washed up and unfortunately everybody in the league knows that. So they only offer some bad contracts for him.

JES12 · Post #45 » by **JES12** » Tue May 6, 2008 1:31 am

Flash4thewin wrote:The mavs are bad trading partners for the Heat. You have no lottery pick or young stud to trade. Howard isnt worth Marion and Marion has 10x more value as a max near 17 mil expiring contract.

Actually Dallas is a good trading partner with Miami. We can offer a player that can play better with Wade (Howard), maybe 2 (Terry) and can offer a near virtual expiring back (Stackhouse).

Whether that fits what you (Flash4thewin in specific) wants is a different story. If you feel his value is more as an expiring than a talented SF for a playoff team, then so be it; use him as an expiring. Dallas' only interest was as an actual player to play with Kidd, not an expiring that we would hope to extend.

And talent wise, Howard > Marion on most teams unless you have Kidd, Nash, Paul or any other GREAT passing PG.

JES12 · Post #46 » by **JES12** » Tue May 6, 2008 1:37 am

Henry Turner wrote:I prefer to keep josh ho as we can't get anything valuable for him.
And let's keep grandpa and let his fat contract expires. He's washed up and unfortunately everybody in the league knows that. So they only offer some bad contracts for him.

If the actual GMs are anything like the realgm posters on the trade forum, I totally agree with you.

Bucky O'Hare · Post #47 » by **Bucky O'Hare** » Tue May 6, 2008 3:15 am

Dunleavy and Shawne Williams for Howard.

Mav's improve their offense via Dunleavy's shooting and passing, and pick up a promising 21 year old forward in the process.

JES12 · Post #48 » by **JES12** » Tue May 6, 2008 3:59 am

Bucky O'Hare wrote:Dunleavy and Shawne Williams for Howard.

Mav's improve their offense via Dunleavy's shooting and passing, and pick up a promising 21 year old forward in the process.

Terry for Dunleavy and you can keep Williams.

There ore only 2 players on your team we would trade Howard for...JO in a panic win now or Grainger if we are rebuilding (as he is way more foul proned to make a lateral move).

SabasRevenge! · Post #49 » by **SabasRevenge!** » Tue May 6, 2008 5:33 pm

Patterns wrote:Is this the same Josh Howard some of you said you wouldn't trade for Kobe Bryant?

...yet they act like martyrs when fans of the other 29 teams say they can't stand them...

How about a package from Portland built around Travis Outlaw? Outlaw is 23 and had a breakout season last year. The Trailblazers will not be trading Roy, Aldridge or Oden, but who else would interest the Mavs for matching salaries? How about the 13th pick? Would James Jones' long range shooting and heady play help you? Jarrett Jack or Channing Frye? Sergio Rodriguez?

It probably wouldn't be possible until after their BYC status expires, but it has been talked about on the Portland board. What do you think?

trickydik · Post #50 » by **trickydik** » Tue May 6, 2008 5:49 pm

hawks offer marvin and zaza for howard

jwa1107 · Post #51 » by **jwa1107** » Tue May 6, 2008 9:01 pm

SabasRevenge! wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

...yet they act like martyrs when fans of the other 29 teams say they can't stand them...

How about a package from Portland built around Travis Outlaw? Outlaw is 23 and had a breakout season last year. The Trailblazers will not be trading Roy, Aldridge or Oden, but who else would interest the Mavs for matching salaries? How about the 13th pick? Would James Jones' long range shooting and heady play help you? Jarrett Jack or Channing Frye? Sergio Rodriguez?

It probably wouldn't be possible until after their BYC status expires, but it has been talked about on the Portland board. What do you think?

#13 + Outlaw + Raef + Pryzbilla + Jack to DAL
Howard + Damp + Jones + S&T Malik Allen to POR

Archi-stu@BSU · Post #52 » by **Archi-stu@BSU** » Fri May 9, 2008 12:41 pm

i highly doubt larry bird trades for someone with character issues...(Artest, Jackson, Tinsley)..