Prime Jason Kidd vs. Chris Paul

Joseph17 · Post #1 » by **Joseph17** » Tue May 6, 2008 4:53 am

Who's better and why?

Post #2 » by **Harry Palmer** » Tue May 6, 2008 7:15 am

Statistically speaking, Chris Paul won't hit his prime for 5 more years.

Something to think about.

Goubot · Post #3 » by **Goubot** » Tue May 6, 2008 12:49 pm

It's hard to imagine areas in his game that he can really improve on. He can improve his man to man defense and he's rebounded better in past years, I guess? His jumper is already good, and I guess it could get better, but I really can't imagine his prime being wildly better than this.

Hold That · Post #4 » by **Hold That** » Tue May 6, 2008 3:13 pm

Paul really needs work on his 3 ball.

Blackfyre · Post #5 » by **Blackfyre** » Tue May 6, 2008 3:40 pm

Main Event wrote:Paul really needs work on his 3 ball.

92-249 37% from 3. That's not bad imo.

Goubot · Post #6 » by **Goubot** » Tue May 6, 2008 3:50 pm

Yeah, he's already a pretty good three point shooter, albeit not a great one. However, if he can get his 3P% to the high 30s or low 40s (within the realm of possibility given his improved shooting each year and his work ethic), he'd be virtually impossible to guard.

kooldude · Post #7 » by **kooldude** » Tue May 6, 2008 9:09 pm

Goubot wrote:Yeah, he's already a pretty good three point shooter, albeit not a great one. However, if he can get his 3P% to the high 30s or low 40s (within the realm of possibility given his improved shooting each year and his work ethic), he'd be virtually impossible to guard.

I don't think he's really guardable now except he does have bad games against Dwill.

btw, no one has really answered the Q.

chrice · Post #8 » by **chrice** » Tue May 6, 2008 9:34 pm

Something a lot of people forget is th at Kidd didn't really develop a jumpshot until very very late in his career. I'd say, scoring-wise, Paul is already a mile ahead of him; even if you compared Paul right now to Kidd's prime. Defensively, Kidd used to be able to guard the 2 because of his size. But Paul isn't a slouch either at his size...he's able to force a tremendous number of turnovers every game that don't always count as steals on his stat sheet. I think yesterday's game also summed up Paul's efficiency, 12 assists to 1 turnover. I think he has the edge in that category as well.

#1KnicksFan · Post #9 » by **#1KnicksFan** » Tue May 6, 2008 10:07 pm

Kidd.

Some of you are forgetting Kidd was a back to back 2nd place finish in the MVP voting, and got to back to back Finals appearances, with essentially a similiar or worse cast.

If Paul keeps this up a few more years, it's Paul. But stopping sniffin his undies so bad damn, it's his 3rd friggin year.

death valley40 · Post #10 » by **death valley40** » Tue May 6, 2008 10:48 pm

I think it's amazing Chris Paul and LeBron James are only 6 months apart age wise. The future is bright my friend. These guys are incredible. I love Chris Pauls game so much.

sabi · Post #11 » by **sabi** » Tue May 6, 2008 10:58 pm

chrice wrote: I think yesterday's game also summed up Paul's efficiency, 12 assists to 1 turnover. I think he has the edge in that category as well.

Statistical generalization FTW

halfHAVOC · Post #12 » by **halfHAVOC** » Wed May 7, 2008 2:03 am

kidd but the way paul is going he can probably end up with the better career.

JordansBulls · Post #13 » by **JordansBulls** » Wed May 7, 2008 11:51 am

It won't take much time for Paul to surpass Kidd on the all time list.

chrice · Post #14 » by **chrice** » Wed May 7, 2008 11:54 am

sabi wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Statistical generalization FTW

Haha. It was just an example dude. Bring this thread up in a few years, I will bet money that Paul ends his career with a higher assist to turnover ratio.

tmac4real · Post #15 » by **tmac4real** » Wed May 7, 2008 5:06 pm

Chris Paul,

easily.

RobertGlory · Post #16 » by **RobertGlory** » Thu May 8, 2008 8:02 am

CP3 has a few trade demands, coach firings, and flagrant fouls to catch up to kidd's legendary career