If Dwight Howard was traded to or signed with the Hornets...

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Post#41 » by farzi » Tue May 6, 2008 9:03 pm

thamadkant wrote:Why would Hornets do that?

West is a better scorer than Howard, given that West can score in a wide variety of moves, as opposed to Howard who dunks everything, and as being shown, with good defenders he can be very one dimensional.


Chandler and West for Howard.... haha, so you give up 2 legit big man, one focuses in finishing and defense the other all round offense... for a mechanically offensive athletic BIG man...

He's not Shaq.... far from it... Can anyone actually remember O'Neal, Magic days?... he was much more dominant than Howard, its almost automatic down there, too big to stop and athletic with good hands...


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Post#42 » by thamadkant » Tue May 6, 2008 9:11 pm

What about it?

remember the proposition was Chandler AND West for Howard.

A West + filler (none All-Star) + picks would be considerable.

A Chandler + filler (semi All-Star) + picks would be considerable.

You have to remember, very good BIG MEN are worth a lot.... Chandler and West are 2 LEGITIMATELY good-very good BIG MEN.

A 7'1 defensive anchor in Chandler and a offense oriented 6'9 big man in West.

Again... people here under estimate West a lot... he can ball...
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Post#43 » by J-Mezzy » Tue May 6, 2008 9:14 pm

There are all kind of threads titled players A+B vs Players C+D. There are threads involving decade teams or old players playing in today's league, but this is a waste of a thread? It is just like any other player comparison thread, it is basically asking if Paul and Howard would be the most lethal combination in the NBA. You can say Kobe and Duncan, maybe Lebron and Williams. It is not as ridiculous of a thread as some of the people here are trying to make it be
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Post#44 » by Gerhalt11 » Tue May 6, 2008 9:39 pm

See the kind of dredge threads like these attract? Is that...is that a Heat fan I see? Good God...
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Post#45 » by kooldude » Tue May 6, 2008 10:47 pm

thamadkant wrote:Just to reitirate my point,

West is a 19/9 player
Chandler is a 12/11 player

2 LEGIT BIG MEN, who are very good and more than servicable for 1 BIG MAN, who's only true elite skill is rebounding....

Stoudemire and Howard are 2 funny examples of big men that could of been truelly revolutionary, Im talking, Olajuwon, Robinson, O'Neal etc level... if not for the fact that both are not complete... one lacks defense the other lacks offense...


I know you didn't just say Howard lacks offense.....
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Post#46 » by That Nicka » Tue May 6, 2008 11:04 pm

thamadkant wrote:Why would Hornets do that?

West is a better scorer than Howard, given that West can score in a wide variety of moves, as opposed to Howard who dunks everything, and as being shown, with good defenders he can be very one dimensional.


Chandler and West for Howard.... haha, so you give up 2 legit big man, one focuses in finishing and defense the other all round offense... for a mechanically offensive athletic BIG man...

He's not Shaq.... far from it... Can anyone actually remember O'Neal, Magic days?... he was much more dominant than Howard, its almost automatic down there, too big to stop and athletic with good hands...


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Post#47 » by That Nicka » Tue May 6, 2008 11:06 pm

Dwight has potential to be a 25 and 15 center in his prime (maybe even better) while demanding double and triple teams on every possession... Neither David West nor Tyson Chandler will ever demand that kind of attention

Dwight Howard + any decent PF in his prime will be >>>>>>>>>>> that David West + Tyson Chandler

there are intangibles in basketball that exceed numbers.. And Dwight definitely has a greater presence than his numbers indicate... I am almost sure that the Hornets would pull the trigger on this trade right now if they could
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Post#48 » by MalReyn » Tue May 6, 2008 11:40 pm

One great player is much more important in basketball than 2 very good players. Trust me the Hornets would trade Chandler and West for Howard in a heartbeat.

Orlando however, would not even consider dealing Howard.
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Post#49 » by j-ragg » Wed May 7, 2008 12:16 am

thamadkant wrote:What about it?

remember the proposition was Chandler AND West for Howard.

A West + filler (none All-Star) + picks would be considerable.

A Chandler + filler (semi All-Star) + picks would be considerable.

You have to remember, very good BIG MEN are worth a lot.... Chandler and West are 2 LEGITIMATELY good-very good BIG MEN.

A 7'1 defensive anchor in Chandler and a offense oriented 6'9 big man in West.

Again... people here under estimate West a lot... he can ball...


Wow...

You have to remember that Dwight is 22 years old with enormous potential.

The Lakers would trade Kobe to NY for Zach Randolph and Jamal Crawford in a heartbeat. They'd be fools not to.

Together they average 37 ppg which is > than Kobe's 28. And Randolph is a better rebounder alone. Doubt NY would do it though.
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Post#50 » by WadeKnicks2010 » Wed May 7, 2008 1:26 am

I think a more likely scenario and closer to the present one would be LeBron opting out and joining another superstar. Maybe Oden will be a superstar by then and Lebron will join him and Roy, now that would be devastating. Of course the scariest thing is that I believe LeBron, Bosh, Wade, and Paul will all be free agents the same season. They could all decide to play for next to nothing in Orlando and form a line up of

Paul
Wade
LeBron
Bosh
Howard

That's Team USA right there.

Not trolling, but obviously I know its unlikely that these guys would take such huge paycuts to play for Orlando of all places.
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Post#51 » by farzi » Wed May 7, 2008 1:34 am

WadeKnicks2010 wrote:I think a more likely scenario and closer to the present one would be LeBron opting out and joining another superstar. Maybe Oden will be a superstar by then and Lebron will join him and Roy, now that would be devastating. Of course the scariest thing is that I believe LeBron, Bosh, Wade, and Paul will all be free agents the same season. They could all decide to play for next to nothing in Orlando and form a line up of

Paul
Wade
LeBron
Bosh
Howard

That's Team USA right there.

Not trolling, but obviously I know its unlikely that these guys would take such huge paycuts to play for Orlando of all places.


Next to impossible. Portland would have enough money to sign him in 09, but LBJ can't opt out until 10. They won't have the cap space unless Aldridge and Roy both sign for like 5 mil each, they don't add anyone inbetween, and either Outlaw or Webster is left to walk.
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Post#52 » by Meatcookie » Wed May 7, 2008 3:06 am

The Spurs are a dynasty, but the 3-peat Lakers are not? So 3 titles in 6 years is greater then 3 titles in 3 years? What kind of sense does that make?

Longevity is a big factor

edit: 3 titles in 6 years is not a greater accomplishment than 3 in a row, but to classify something as a dynasty then I would vote for the spurs 3 in 6 over the lakers 3 in 3.
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Post#53 » by ImmortalD24 » Wed May 7, 2008 3:17 am

Kobe will take a pay-cut, and Lamar Odom(15mil) will be gone next year which makes room to sign Lebron for the Max and sign Bynum for a reasonable contract..

Just imagine in 2010:

PG: SCRUB
SG: Kobe(31)
SF: Lebron(25)
PF: Gasol(29)
C: Bynum(22)
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Post#54 » by bstein14 » Wed May 7, 2008 3:22 am

I think they'd run in to trouble when they Face Kobe Bryant and the Celtics.
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Post#55 » by Simplicity0 » Wed May 7, 2008 3:26 am

And this thread was started by a Magic fan :banghead:. The Magic would never trade Howard, so it doesn't matter. + The Magic already resigned him lawl.

Why would you pick the Hornets, though? Why not pick the Cavs? They have LeBron. I hope I'm not wrong, but Dwight definitely isn't a sellout like Shaq was.

Conclusion: this thread is pointless.

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Post#56 » by Storm Surge » Wed May 7, 2008 4:32 am

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Next to impossible. Portland would have enough money to sign him in 09, but LBJ can't opt out until 10. They won't have the cap space unless Aldridge and Roy both sign for like 5 mil each, they don't add anyone inbetween, and either Outlaw or Webster is left to walk.

the rockets by 2010 will have tmacs 20 million dollar contract off the books if we do some maneuvering they could sign lebron. Yao and lebron would bring in more revenue together than half of the NBA combined.
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Re: If Dwight Howard was traded to or signed with the Hornet 

Post#57 » by celticspierce34 » Wed May 7, 2008 4:52 am

J-Mezzy wrote:Assuming the Hornets' core was left intact,
How good would that team be in a historic perspective?
Would this team be a dynasty? Could it challenge Jordan's Bulls or some of the great Celtics or Lakers teams?

Discuss
how the eff do you think that is possible?

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