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Post#1 » by G_MoNeY » Thu May 8, 2008 6:56 pm

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Post#2 » by jeff1624 » Thu May 8, 2008 7:44 pm

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Post#3 » by MrDollarBills » Thu May 8, 2008 8:51 pm

Awesome article, too bad the guys who cover the Nets in this area don't write the truth about how this man has been dragging this team down.

Thorn looks absolutely stupid right now with every win the Hornets get in the playoffs.
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Post#4 » by NetsForce » Thu May 8, 2008 8:57 pm

...Look I understand the Frank hating, but this is a message for everyone:

For the love of God NEVER bring up Byron Scott EVER again. HE HAD TO GO. The Nets fired him at the right time, as a result Byron was humbled (sort of, he's still pretty stuck up) and was forced to change his coaching style.

I appreciate what Byron did for the Nets but you can't keep one coach forever. Especially when he doesn't get along with your top three players...
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Post#5 » by Rich Rane » Thu May 8, 2008 9:10 pm

We actually went 11-20 after the trade.
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Post#6 » by Rich Rane » Thu May 8, 2008 9:14 pm

NetsForce wrote:...Look I understand the Frank hating, but this is a message for everyone:

For the love of God NEVER bring up Byron Scott EVER again. HE HAD TO GO. The Nets fired him at the right time, as a result Byron was humbled (sort of, he's still pretty stuck up) and was forced to change his coaching style.

I appreciate what Byron did for the Nets but you can't keep one coach forever. Especially when he doesn't get along with your top three players...


Thanks. I felt like I was talking to people with earplugs when I tell everyone this.

Why doesn't anyone understand this is a star's league? When a guy in charge isn't in rebuilding and is faced with the choice of letting go his star player(s) or his coach, it's usually the coach that gets the boot?
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Post#7 » by S.I.C. GM » Thu May 8, 2008 9:27 pm

NetsForce wrote:...Look I understand the Frank hating, but this is a message for everyone:

For the love of God NEVER bring up Byron Scott EVER again. HE HAD TO GO. The Nets fired him at the right time, as a result Byron was humbled (sort of, he's still pretty stuck up) and was forced to change his coaching style.

I appreciate what Byron did for the Nets but you can't keep one coach forever. Especially when he doesn't get along with your top three players...


I agree with you. He had to go. HOF player always wins over Up and Coming Coach.

As far as coaching style, what did he change?

I do remember reading an article that said he was confused with reports of the way he coached. He said that he used techniques (managing assistants) that other head coaches he had worked with used, but his methods were too laid back.
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Post#8 » by G_MoNeY » Thu May 8, 2008 9:47 pm

thanks for the comments guys. If you can post some of these comments on the actual page, it'd be appreciated. Byron Scott was brought up because of the comments Chris Paul made. A major gripe I have of Frank is that he doesn't demand the respect necessary at this level, IMO.
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Post#9 » by Serpo » Fri May 9, 2008 1:07 am

Stupid article , i really hate these idiots bashing on Jason Collins . He may be horrible offensively but ( sadly ) he has been our only consistent big next to a healthy Krstic and has been great on D .

Hate him as much as you want but with the guys we had he had to play.

And that Swift trade btw was a mistake once Swift picks up his play option . He may put up better stats but is by far more useless .
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Post#10 » by NetsForce » Fri May 9, 2008 2:55 am

S.I.C. GM wrote:I agree with you. He had to go. HOF player always wins over Up and Coming Coach. ]

[bAs far as coaching style, what did he change?[/b]

I do remember reading an article that said he was confused with reports of the way he coached. He said that he used techniques (managing assistants) that other head coaches he had worked with used, but his methods were too laid back.


What I meant was that he's changed as a person. There was a nice interview on ESPN before where Byron talked about how he's better at keeping his ego in check now. Overall he just seems to have matured since leaving New Jersey... Even if he still does have some brainfarts (as evidenced by the Jerry Stackhouse incident).

Byron is a good coach, he's a better coach in New Orleans than he was with his time with the Nets, but I'm just tired of people bringing him up time and time again.

The page on the Byron Scott era has been turned over and over again. So I think it's time we just put the topic to rest.
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Post#11 » by vincecarter4pres » Fri May 9, 2008 1:17 pm

Rich Rane wrote:We actually went 11-20 after the trade.



That would mean 8-16 with Devin as the starting PG.
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Post#12 » by mack69 » Sat May 10, 2008 10:25 pm

Byron Scott is a very good coach! his one mistake with us is not putting Kittles in the game sooner in game 6 of the finals with the spurs.

I dont understand why Thorn keep protecting Frank?
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Post#13 » by Serpo » Sat May 10, 2008 11:59 pm

Because the Roster has been horrible and Thorn feels he's more responsible for this year then Frank is .

And to be honest with you i agree with that this team has just been build poorly and never really had a chance without a motivated Kidd .
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Post#14 » by HotShots » Sun May 11, 2008 2:31 am

Serpo wrote:Because the Roster has been horrible and Thorn feels he's more responsible for this year then Frank is .

And to be honest with you i agree with that this team has just been build poorly and never really had a chance without a motivated Kidd .



WHAT ABOUT THE WIZARDS?????? YOU THINK THEIR ROSTER WAS BETTER THAN OURS????? NO ARENAS NO THOMAS????

How about Philly?????

Wizards 43-39
Nets 34-48


Is Washington's roster really that much better??????


Let's face it FRANK SUCKS!!!!!!
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Post#15 » by Serpo » Sun May 11, 2008 11:22 am

My honest opinion ? Yes it is . We have 3-4 good players that can hit shots consistently and play good defense .

Thats not going to cut it. There are day when all 3-4 guys have a good game and we win but if thats not the case there's not much chance for this team because whats comming of the bench isn't consistent enough to shoulder some of the scoring.
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Post#16 » by Birth of the Cool » Sun May 11, 2008 1:36 pm

Serpo wrote:Because the Roster has been horrible and Thorn feels he's more responsible for this year then Frank is .

And to be honest with you i agree with that this team has just been build poorly and never really had a chance without a motivated Kidd .


I'm not the biggest Frank fan but I do have to agree with the above point.
Although Frank must take some of the blame (poor rotations, micromanaging the team, losing the team's ear as he admitted, the questionable handling of young guys like Marcus & SWat although Boone seems to be a godsend for now) this team is just constructed in an unbalanced way that doesn't maximize a team's chance for consistent success.

The Nets "strength" is in their smaller positions:
SG - 10th best PER (of the 30 teams)
SF - 14th best...
PG - 16th best...
PF - 25th best...
C - dead last

So other than SG & SF position the rest of the team's productivity is worse than half of the league and the two power positions are at the bottom of the league so there's no balance on the team but everyone and their mother (happy mother's day) has known this for years but Thorn and company has tried to address it (shown interest in Jermaine O'Neal before his most recent injury, drafted Boone, drafted SWat, until this pass dissapointing off season had Krstic solidly in the future plans, picked up Diop & Swift even if only for a brief stint).

If the Nets go into next season with this unbalanced roster again then expect a 0.500 or worse team again unless their is growth within (if they resign Krstic & he becomes productive on both ends of the court again, if Boone continues to improve, if SWat's growth/minutes improve, etc).

The frontcourt doesn't even have to be very productive, just near average compared to the rest of the league and I think the Nets could be a good team.
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Post#17 » by holdupstop23 » Mon May 12, 2008 3:18 pm

Lawrence Frank is one of the Top 5 worst coaches in the league.
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Post#18 » by NetsForce » Mon May 12, 2008 4:08 pm

holdupstop23 wrote:Lawrence Frank is one of the Top 5 worst coaches in the league.


He's easily better than:

Sam Snitchell
Mike Woodson
Marc Iavaroni
Randy Wittman
George Karl
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Post#19 » by MrDollarBills » Mon May 12, 2008 4:32 pm

Lawrence Frank is better than who?? George Karl??

I understand we have some folk here who actually think Frank has nothing to do with the horrific play that we had to endure this season, but please people, be serious for a moment :laugh:
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Post#20 » by S.I.C. GM » Mon May 12, 2008 5:35 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:Lawrence Frank is better than who?? George Karl??

I understand we have some folk here who actually think Frank has nothing to do with the horrific play that we had to endure this season, but please people, be serious for a moment :laugh:


Agreed.

Sam Mitchell is arguably better the Frank too.

Atleast Mitchell tries to involve his young players. We were a better team last year that is why we won that playoff series.
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