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Post#41 » by MyInsatiableOne » Thu May 8, 2008 7:55 pm

BMC, I'm still not sure I agree with you. You can break **** down all day, but at the end of the day it's the numbers/stats/records that don't lie, and those all show the Cavs are worse after the trade.
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Post#42 » by tlee324 » Thu May 8, 2008 8:06 pm

Insatiable, it's like you didn't read the earlier posts... the records, including the playoffs, are the same percentage-wise.

I'm not really saying one is better, because going by the records, I don't think a full straight-up answer could be found. They're both at 56%. Also, they haven't had as many games as the team prior, who had 55 games together. What I think matters more than the records would be how they matchup with the Celtics, which requires more opinion than stats.

Peter's song and dance must require his hate for Delonte (ultimately his love for Marcus Banks). He has a bias in this, so naturally the team with Delonte West and Wally Szczerbiak is worse, because he hates those guys. Don't let the bias interrupt a good discussion, please. All he's looking for is proof to be right in his agenda, not a real objective look at things.

So again, just looking at the records, it doesn't appear to have a straight-up answer, since they are the same percentage-wise. The question was asked primarily because we'd like to know our chances of winning this series... but whether you think they are better or not prior, they are proving you have to respect them... especially when you look at how they dispatched of the Wizards in the playoffs, a team we struggled with all year. Also, game one was quite a struggle too, especially from the defensive end. It really doesn't matter if the prior team is better or not, because THIS current Cleveland team is proving they can beat us if we're not on our game.

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Post#43 » by MyInsatiableOne » Thu May 8, 2008 8:14 pm

No, I understand the numbers are the same...basically the same, rather. But taken as a whole, and judging their play and the quality of the team AFTER, I think it's safe to say they're much worse.

Anyway, that's my opinion, you have yours, and never the two shall meet. 8)
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Post#44 » by tlee324 » Thu May 8, 2008 8:21 pm

The first Cavs team of this season were a 56% win team, the same as the one after the trade... they weren't a great team and neither is the one afterwards... but considering the team afterwards beat Washington pretty convincingly and gave us a very tough game 1, I'm guessing since they are "much" worse than the team of the first half, that prior team would have come in sweeping the Wizards and winning game 1 on us, right?
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