We gave Igoudala $h*+ but what about the KING?!?!?!?!

IggyTheBEaST · Post #1 » by **IggyTheBEaST** » Fri May 9, 2008 6:44 pm

Lebron is shooting close to HALF Igoudalas shooting percentage vs the pistons!. 19 percent! Thats horrendous! Were we too hard on Iggy?
Im sure people will give plenty of excuses for lebron, here they come

P2K · Post #2 » by **P2K** » Fri May 9, 2008 6:59 pm

What kind of crap is this???

LeBron has more talent in his right big toe than Iguodala.

Here's the difference: LeBron can go on in the next game and pour in 47, 12, and 10.

Did Iguodala do that?

SendEm · Post #3 » by **SendEm** » Fri May 9, 2008 7:00 pm

Lebron James has had approximately 700 million GREAT NBA games. Iggy has had about 3 GREAT NBA games. Those games being the Cleveland overtime game a couple seasons back, the Suns game this season and the Boston game this season. When Iggy can put together 20 great games in his career then we'll entertain other possibilities as to why Iggy didn't perform well in the playoffs besides the ubiquitous "He doesn't have any half court skills" and "He choked"...

SouthJersey · Post #4 » by **SouthJersey** » Fri May 9, 2008 7:15 pm

Come on, this is crazy. You take Lebron off that team and they win 25 games, not to mention he took the Cavs to the NBA FINALS last year. Also, do you think Lebron is gonna be shut down on his home court???

phiphan · Post #5 » by **phiphan** » Fri May 9, 2008 7:22 pm

P2K wrote:LeBron has more talent in his right big toe than Iguodala.

I can vouch for this. I once saw a high school game where LeBron's right big toe put up 26/11/13, with no turnovers.

CPops57 · Post #6 » by **CPops57** » Fri May 9, 2008 7:39 pm

I haven't watched that series too closely so maybe somebody here can answer. What are the Celtics doing to neutralize LeBron and what has LeBron's coach done to adjust to that?

PS: Iggy does deserve to be ripped somewhat, but the coach deserves the majority of the blame for putting the player in a bad position to succeed even when it was 100% obvious that the matchup wasn't working. Where were the adjustments from Mo?

SendEm · Post #7 » by **SendEm** » Fri May 9, 2008 7:53 pm

CPops57 wrote:I haven't watched that series too closely so maybe somebody here can answer. What are the Celtics doing to neutralize LeBron and what has LeBron's coach done to adjust to that?

PS: Iggy does deserve to be ripped somewhat, but the coach deserves the majority of the blame for putting the player in a bad position to succeed even when it was 100% obvious that the matchup wasn't working. Where were the adjustments from Mo?

The only other choice Mo had was to go away from Iguodala. He was placing Iguodala in the best position to succeed by allowing him to do what he did all season long to average that 19.9ppg. Iggy is worthless without being a ball hog. :noway:

The whole talk of putting Thad at the SF so that Iggy could be guarded by Rip is worthless because Iggy would STILL have to contend with the double team that was geared at his sweat spots on the court. Detroit was well prepared for this particular offensively limited 19.9ppg scorer. Well prepared like a Bill Belichick game plan or something. My beef with Cheeks is that he KEPT going to Iggy and not exploring all of his options and running plays instead of iso's.

ahwi_quacoe · Post #8 » by **ahwi_quacoe** » Fri May 9, 2008 8:03 pm

Lebron's offensive limitation are also being exposed somewhat. No Mid range game, Inconsistent perimeter jump shooting , over reliance on driving to the rim . Put him in the post more Mike Brown and stop using him at the top of the key. With the rules on fouls being tightened a bit and the refs giving the Celtics the benefit of the doubt, Lebron is having a hard time scoring. In my opinion , Lebron is a bit overhyped because the Nba created his stardom. He's a very good young player but is yet to develop the skill set that will make him completely un-guardable. I know someone will rip me for this but when I watch alebron during the regular season I feel he gets way to many calls. How do you defend a man who bumrushes his way to the rim as big and strong as he is when the refs call all these ticky tack fouls. As for Iguodala, he shouldn't even be in this conversation at all. A homeless man's version of Lebron.

SendEm · Post #9 » by **SendEm** » Fri May 9, 2008 8:23 pm

I don't think that there's anything wrong with Lebron and his jumpshot is top notch. I believe that we are witnessing the effects of him being the only really talented offensive player on his team as opposed to the Celtics, Lakers, and Spurs who have 2-3. Also the NBA allows zone defenses. Cleveland can't MAKE the defense clear out an entire side of the floor and allow LBJ to go one on one or even 2 on one. Micheal Jordan played during an era where he could go 1 on 1 on any given possession or have the other team called for illegal defense if they didn't respect the isolation appropriately.

True, Lebron has been helped by the NBA calling touch fouls the last 3-4 seasons. D. Wade is the largest beneficiary of that.

Sixersftw · Post #10 » by **Sixersftw** » Fri May 9, 2008 8:29 pm

SendEm wrote:I don't think that there's anything wrong with Lebron and his jumpshot is top notch.

really? he's a great young player regardless of this series but lebrons mom wouldn't call lebrons jumpshot top notch.

freshie2 · Post #11 » by **freshie2** » Fri May 9, 2008 10:15 pm

SendEm wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
The whole talk of putting Thad at the SF so that Iggy could be guarded by Rip is worthless because Iggy would STILL have to contend with the double team that was geared at his sweat spots on the court. Detroit was well prepared for this particular offensively limited 19.9ppg scorer.

If you put in a PF and moved Thad to the 3, he either has Rip or Iguodala has Rip. Either way, the matchups are better for the Sixers than giving up 5 inches at both the SG and SF positions. If they doubled Iguodala, the Sixers end up with better length matchups for the other players off the ball.

I really don't even care about how it may have impacted Iguodala offensively...Iguodala had a bad series and should have done better. You are really missing a basic point in the team game of basketball. Putting a bigger PF in the game with Thad and Iguodala changed the matchups to be more favorable for the Sixers (than staying with WG at the 2) on both ends of the court. Especially defensively, Green could not challenge Rip d/t the length issue, and Iguodala faced the same situation with Prince. Pistons still win the series, but that type of lineup gives them their best matchup against that starting 5.

psykosacul · Post #12 » by **psykosacul** » Fri May 9, 2008 10:16 pm

lebron has had two bad games, after carrying the team all season and putting up some of the best season numbers in our lifetimes, and smacking the wizards around in the first round.

iggy had a poor series and is playing for a contract

Cru Thik · Post #13 » by **Cru Thik** » Sat May 10, 2008 4:06 pm

IggyTheBEaST wrote:Lebron is shooting close to HALF Igoudalas shooting percentage vs the pistons!. 19 percent! Thats horrendous! Were we too hard on Iggy?
Im sure people will give plenty of excuses for lebron, here they come

LeBron isn't playing all that well. But Iguodala will get a bad rap on this site no matter what happens. It was the same way with Iverson. It only took what one full season for everyone to take a **** on Iguodala. It's pathetic how the Philly fans on this site act toward our players. Iguodala could score 30 15 10 and win 6 rings in a row and people would still find a reason to bitch about him.

SendEm · Post #14 » by **SendEm** » Sat May 10, 2008 4:29 pm

Cassidy wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

LeBron isn't playing all that well. But Iguodala will get a bad rap on this site no matter what happens. It was the same way with Iverson. It only took what one full season for everyone to take a **** on Iguodala. It's pathetic how the Philly fans on this site act toward our players. Iguodala could score 30 15 10 and win 6 rings in a row and people would still find a reason to bitch about him.

No one is "bitching" about Andre Miller...If you show heart, play hard, AND PRODUCE, Philly fans will darn near worship you. T.O. was the man. Brian Westbrook IS the man. People in Philly love Iguodala, but it is certainly only a matter of time before that changes when he is clogging up the salary cap with low production and a high pay rate that suggests MORE production.

Post #15 » by **Sixerscan** » Sat May 10, 2008 7:29 pm

SendEm wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

No one is "bitching" about Andre Miller...

Yeah, I find that kind of weird. He played like crap from the second half of Game 4 on.

P2K · Post #16 » by **P2K** » Sun May 11, 2008 1:19 am

Cassidy wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

LeBron isn't playing all that well. But Iguodala will get a bad rap on this site no matter what happens. It was the same way with Iverson. It only took what one full season for everyone to take a **** on Iguodala. It's pathetic how the Philly fans on this site act toward our players. Iguodala could score 30 15 10 and win 6 rings in a row and people would still find a reason to bitch about him.

This is one of the silliest posts ever. Iguodala, as much as I like the guy as a player for what he is, deserved to be ripped.

How the hell is it pathetic to call a player out for playing like **** in a playoff series?

SendEm · Post #17 » by **SendEm** » Sun May 11, 2008 6:35 am

Lebron can do things that Iggy can't. Lebron destroyed 2 of Rondo's shots. One being a dunk attempt and another being a layup. Iggy would have never even challenged them...