Who's the better defender?

Bucs80 · Post #1 » by **Bucs80** » Sat May 10, 2008 3:19 am

Who do you feel is the better defender?

Post #2 » by **NO-KG-AI** » Sat May 10, 2008 3:31 am

Derek Fisher.

TheKingOfVa360 · Post #3 » by **TheKingOfVa360** » Sat May 10, 2008 3:35 am

technologic · Post #4 » by **technologic** » Sat May 10, 2008 3:43 am

both above average.

Post #5 » by **miller31time** » Sat May 10, 2008 4:24 am

Moving to PC Board.

CB4MiamiHeat · Post #6 » by **CB4MiamiHeat** » Sat May 10, 2008 4:34 am

Fisher is a mystery..he was bad in the regular season but now hes looking great.

KyleCleric · Post #7 » by **KyleCleric** » Sat May 10, 2008 5:30 am

Deron Williams is the better technical defender. Paul is better at getting steals. I prefer Williams defensively over Paul.

FlashFlood · Post #8 » by **FlashFlood** » Sat May 10, 2008 6:14 am

Deron appears strong enough to handle larger opponents, but Paul's quicker. As a defender at the PG position, I like Paul better because he can read opposing points based on game situations. This guy might have a few game-winning steals before the playoffs are over.

wigglestrue · Post #9 » by **wigglestrue** » Sat May 10, 2008 8:29 am

Okay I think Paul's D is overrated but this thread is a joke.

That Nicka · Post #10 » by **That Nicka** » Sat May 10, 2008 8:40 am

Deron Williams

PimpORL · Post #11 » by **PimpORL** » Sat May 10, 2008 11:36 am

rofl at this thread. Paul sucks at defense. Deron wins this hands down.

Rasheeed!!! · Post #12 » by **Rasheeed!!!** » Sat May 10, 2008 3:38 pm

On the ball: Williams
Off the ball: Paul

Post #13 » by **NO-KG-AI** » Sat May 10, 2008 3:43 pm

PimpORL wrote:rofl at this thread. Paul sucks at defense. Deron wins this hands down.

Bahahahaha

cb4_89 · Post #14 » by **cb4_89** » Sat May 10, 2008 3:43 pm

PimpORL wrote:rofl at this thread. Paul sucks at defense. Deron wins this hands down.

what?

paul sucks at d?

Post #15 » by **NO-KG-AI** » Sat May 10, 2008 3:46 pm

If a player gets steals, it automatically means he gambles in the passing lanes and sucks at D.

schneiderjazz · Post #16 » by **schneiderjazz** » Sat May 10, 2008 5:40 pm

Paul has problems guarding bigger guys, Deron has problems against quicker guys. Both are above average. I honestly can't tell which one's better.

PimpORL · Post #17 » by **PimpORL** » Sat May 10, 2008 5:51 pm

Considering we're talking about Deron and Paul, yea. I think Chris Paul gets overrated BECAUSE he gets steals. But I think that comes with being the best point gaurd in the NBA. Last season Deron was winning this by a bigger margin, but now people are overrating Paul.

wigglestrue · Post #18 » by **wigglestrue** » Sat May 10, 2008 6:06 pm

If Oliver's defensive rating means anything, Paul >>> Deron.
Are there any stat that shows Deron to be a good defender?

PimpORL · Post #19 » by **PimpORL** » Sat May 10, 2008 6:43 pm

I like using defensive rating too, but it's a basic stat in it's own right, it doesn't look at all the factors, and it's a MUCH better stat for comparing two teams instead of two players. I don't like PER when comparing two star players, but I think opponent PER is more accurate since you play a variety of players and it's to give a general understanding. Still it has a lot of problems and doesn't look at all the factors either since a lot of it depends on your team's defense (see Boston players).

http://82games.com/ROLRTG3.HTM

At least in opponent PER, Williams ranks a lot higher.

Red Robot · Post #20 » by **Red Robot** » Sat May 10, 2008 8:00 pm

Paul's a little better. Both are well below average statistically. Halo Effect.