Official NBA Draft Lottery Discussion Thread II

[CoolD]

Any trade that has Darko, I say no to.

But if we missed out on Rose, am down to trade the pick. Or if we have the number one, draft Beasley, then trade him along with Blount, then get Rose and Mike Miller, that would sound pretty good to me.

[BFRESH44]

Had a dream last night, and in that dream we eneded up with the 3rd pick...

[bgassassin]

Hi guys. If the Grizzlies got #2, we wouldn't make any moves to move up to #1 that's for sure.

And JCN is not a PG. I think I need to start putting that in my sig.

[Lane1974]

Hi guys. If the Grizzlies got #2, we wouldn't make any moves to move up to #1 that's for sure.

And JCN is not a PG. I think I need to start putting that in my sig.

You're probably right, but only because Chris Wallace is atrocious

[G.cracker]

Had a dream last night, and in that dream we eneded up with the 3rd pick...

I had the same dream a few weeks ago. Woke up legitimately sad, but then relieved. Still I tend to lower expectations on things when it is pure luck.

[DayofMourning]

Hi guys. If the Grizzlies got #2, we wouldn't make any moves to move up to #1 that's for sure.

And JCN is not a PG. I think I need to start putting that in my sig.

I'm sure you have inside information, so could you let us in on why you're sure that the Grizz won't make any moves?

[WD]

Ex-Mayo confidant says he gave USC star gifts including TV, cash

Former USC basketball player O.J. Mayo, a projected lottery pick in this year's NBA draft, received thousands of dollars in cash, clothes and other benefits in apparent violation of NCAA rules while he was still in high school and during his one year in college, a former Mayo associate told ESPN's "Outside the Lines."

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/stor ... NHeadlines

[Wade2k6]

I don't understand why the media makes such a big deal about this kinda stuff. Same was said with Reggie Bush and LeBron too.

[CoolD]

I don't understand why the media makes such a big deal about this kinda stuff. Same was said with Reggie Bush and LeBron too.

I agree. I think they do it is to destroy the character of the players, but I actually don't think its a big deal.

[bgassassin]

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I'm sure you have inside information, so could you let us in on why you're sure that the Grizz won't make any moves?

LOL. I don't have inside info, but the reason why we wouldn't move to the first spot if we got second would be this:

If the team above us took Rose, then we would have a PF to replace Pau who would not only be more aggressive in the paint, but would also be able to shoot outside. I see Beasley as a "rich man's" Shawn Marion.

If the team above us took Beasley, then we would have a PG who already has an attachment to Memphis and would be much bigger than what we have now. Some Griz fans believe that attachment would give extra help to attendance, but I don't quite believe that.

[DayofMourning]

So you would draft Rose so you could have a 4 man platoon at PG?

Conley must have been a terrible choice with the 4th pick in the draft....last year, in order for a team with 3 point guards (all young with potential) to take another point. It's kind of funny. Sort of like Seattle taking center after center after center in the draft, but they're all duds, except you'd have to argue that Memphis would have 3 legit starting studs at point.

So in that situation, your management would say, "Let's play them all!". Sorry for the sarcasm, but it's such a ridiculous notion that I find it hard to believe. If Miami had the 1st pick and asked for Miller and the 2nd, then I could see your GM saying, "Thank God!".

[bgassassin]

Conley is great, but you can't justify drafting Lopez or Mayo over Rose. You can't have a selection that high and draft solely on need. We need a post player or SG, but the available talent outweighs the need if Rose were available.

Seattle is different since they picked centers that could have easily been bypassed due to where they were picked. We got Conley because Lowry broke his wrist after his tenth game and missed the rest of the season. If that doesn't happen, then I believe Conley would not have been picked by us.

[The Diesel]

Chad Ford just said today that Riley wants Derrick Rose; so if Miami gets the # 1 pick, he will be the guy.

Unless Riley changes his mind, of-course.

But Ford says that as of today, Riley wants Rose.

[miamiballer]

1. beasley
2. rose
3. Lopez
4. Bayless
5. Mayo

[miamiballer]

i know many of you dont like brook lopez that high but you have to realize that getting a good center nowadays is almost impossible and can only be found within the top 5...sure mcgee or jordan could be good but theres a VERY high % that they are busts and lopez is a pretty safe bet as a VERY solid starting center in the nba something not many teams have...mayo is a great talent but a 2g who doesnt spot up but looks for his shot, we have someone like that already

ditto for bayless but at least he could spot up if we ask him to and is more of a pg

[Lane1974]

it depends on if they want potential or more certainty if they pick at 3 or 4..

they went certainty with Caron (I think he was pretty low risk, maybe they didn't know how high his ceiling was but they knew he was pretty solid), same with Wade, no one could have predicted his greatness when they picked him, but they thought he'd be a solid NBA player... but they chose the potential of Dorell instead of the steadiness of Jameer, and then the steadiness of Simien when they could have had David Lee who went the next pick..

so it's hard to say.. Lopez I think will be a steady NBA role player, but will he ever be a star? Hard to say. Would you be ok with a guy you can pencil in at 82 games and hopefully be a starter for you at #3?

[miamiballer]

if its a center and superstar type players like beasley and rose are off then yes

[MartyConlonJr]

I'm happy with Bayless, Mayo or Lopez with the 3-4 pick. I still think Gordon can be one of the better players in the draft but he just doesn't fit here, and Riley tends away from the foriegners like Gallinari. Love seems to have just as low a ceiling as Lopez, so you have to take position of need in that case, and I haven't seen anything of Anthony Randolph so I can't judge him, but at 18 and 6'11 220 pounds, sounds like a project we can't afford. Anywhere past that and we need to be trading down.

I'm satisfied with getting an unspectacular starter with the 3rd or 4th pick, and PG or C are the two positions we need to fill.

[Lane1974]

are we then not better off dealing 3 or 4 in a package for an already established NBA player?

[MartyConlonJr]

are we then not better off dealing 3 or 4 in a package for an already established NBA player?

Keeping the pick can give you a dependable starter (if you draft right) that costs you 2-4 million per season for the next 4 seasons, while you trade for a guy like Mike Miller and you have a dependable starter earning 8-9 million, so if you aren't willing to go into the luxury tax you might miss out on using the MLE for the next two seasons or miss out on having max cap space later for a big FA. So I guess it comes down to what you can get for the pick vs the readiness of the guy you can draft (no point having another Dorell that takes his whole rookie contract to develop).

Somewhere with Wade and whoever we try to get alongside him, we need to have some cheap starters to balance our cap. A dependable player on a rookie contract is the easiest way to have cheap long-term labour if you can get a guy ready to contribute.